Why I wouldn't be an umpire..#1

run doesnt score because the 3rd out was recorded before he crossed home plate.

and the common sense argument for issuing time is not realistic. pitchers, or at least my pitchers, are taught to throw the pitch no matter what. that does 2 things. it avoids the possible balk call and it also keeps them from trying to stop their throwing motion at a bad spot. avoids injuries.

 

I think you may have misread the situation - the runner crosses the plate before the ball gets to 1st base for the third out. The run does count because an appeal play is a timing play, not a force play like alot of people think.

I actually had a Varsity coach tell me the hands were part of the bat and since the ball hit the batters hands, it should be a foul ball... wow.

So do you think that the runner should be made to go back to 3rd base or do you think the umpire should grant time when the batter steps out? I'm sure you wouldn't want time granted when the batter steps out and your pitcher throws a strike. You can't grant time just because the pitcher threw a wild pitch .... so what would your solution to the batter stepping out?

 

If the umpire doesn't call time, its a live pitch.


You're welcome.

 

That's why I will never be an umpire...I was just guessing because the answer appeared to be too easy, so I figured it had to be something exotic that I didn't know.

But if it had been me.....I would have called batter interference because he "intentionally interfered with the pitcher's delivery"...Hey, it's probably not a rule, but I woud have called it anyway and waited for my good friend Coach Pope to run down to the plate to discuss "fishing" and then tell him to look up Rule 3-12.03A before we continue our discussion.

 

i only argue about homeruns being called back for missing first or,
i usually only argue about the rules that i either know or act like i know
i let a balk be called on us 2 years ago because he said our fielder past the mound on a bunt trap. ...... no such rule... should've argued that one

 

I'd love to hear some more stories. I bet you've got a bunch of 'em

 

Yes the run scores because it is not a force out at first base. The runner was not forced to run, so as long as the run crossed the plate first, its a run.

 

Correct Answer to Original Question

As per NFHS case book situation 6.2.4 and NFHS rule book rule 7-3-1....The umpire shall call 2 strikes on the batter. 1 for stepping out of the box without time being granted and 1 for the pitch that the pitcher threw therefore the batter is out and if there were 2 outs before this situation then the inning would be over and the run would not count, if there was only 1 out then the run would count as the ball remains live during this entire situation. I can tell you this much IF an umpire does call this with 2 outs to end an inning or a scoring threat he better run for the parking lot, BUT he would have made the correct call.

 

Another one....from a college game.

Runner at 1st.....batter has called time (and it's granted) twice before in the middle of the pitcher's delivery. With the count at 2-2....batter once again ask's for time in the middle of pitchers delivery...umpire audibly says " No " ( I heard it myself )....pitcher stops his delivery. Should it be called a balk??

 

I balk should not be called in this situation. A batter's actions cannot cause a pitcher to balk. If the umpire felt as if the batter did this with the intent to try to make the pitcher balk....... Well let's just say he has the rest of the night off. He gets to shower before they run out of hot water.