NW4A vs SW4A

The things they talk about....I didn't realize we were so boring.

 

I understand what you are saying...you have a PM

 

You know if I was the sensative type you might just hurt my feelings...:gaga:

 

I'm just going off of what the scouts posted on the MiLB site about him after the St. Stephens game this year - maybe they are only counting the pitches he threw for strikes?
http://www.minorleaguebaseball.com/milb/events/draft_report/y2007/index.jsp?mc=bumgarner

Biographical Data
Player Name:Madison BumgarnerPosition:Starting PitcherSchool:South Caldwell H.S., Hudson, NCSchool Type:High SchoolAcademic Class:SeniorBirthdate:08/01/89Height:6'5"Weight:220 lbs.Bats:RightThrows:LeftReport Date(s):02/28/07Game(s):St. Stephens


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Comments
Fastball:Bumgarner's fastball has been clocked anywhere from 89-95 mph.FB Movement:Not surprisingly for a lefty, Bumgarner's fastball does have late life with some natural tail. When he's able to keep it down in the zone, it's got some sink and can routinely miss bats with it.Curve/Slider:Bumgarner only started throwing breaking stuff a year ago (kudos to dad), so these offerings lag behind the fastball. He throws a curve at around 70-73 mph and has a slider-like pitch at 75-79 mph. They are slurvy offerings with very lazy bite that is often too flat.Changeup:He doesn't throw it much because he doesn't need to, but he's shown a pretty good feel and command of the change at times, throwing it in the 79-82 mph range. He sometimes will leave the changeup in warmups and not throw it.Control:He's got pretty good command, especially for a hard-throwing high-schooler and was able to throw his fastball for strikes down in the zone.Poise:Bumgarner has good poise and mound presence.Physical Description:Bumgarner is a big, strong-bodied pitcher with a large, athletic frame from a Mark Mulder or Andy Pettitte mold.Medical Update:Healthy.Strengths:Plenty of fastball. He touched 95 and there's probably room for more there, with perhaps a ceiling of 97-98 mph possible.Weaknesses:The breaking stuff. The curve is well below-average but with more time and experience and his athletic ability, he should be able to develop it as a pro.Summary:Bumgarner certainly looks the part, with the body type and fastball of a professional pitcher. Lefties from the high school ranks with plus velocity like that don't come around very often. Any team who takes him will have to keep him from changing his arm angle on his breaking stuff, but chances are there will be many teams willing to give that a shot.

 

I agree with you and the MiLB site...I don't believe that he can hit 98-99. I've seen him throw once this year and he was 89-90 consistent occasionally hitting 92. Never saw a pitch that looked like it was 96 or above. You're probably right about the pitches for strikes. A MLB scout doesn't care if you can throw 98, you have to be able to pump it for. I can't say that he hasn't hit 98-99, but I highly doubt it.

 

Might be an appropriate to look at this again. How many left standing now

 

SW4A

By far the SW4A is better we may or may not have the best team in the state we will find out in a week maybe(Butler vs. South Caldwell) but overall i dont think one team can determine who is better through the playoffs Weddington beat AC Reynolds, SC beat Providence, Alexander beat Ardrey Kell but in the long run theres a reason 7 of the 8 teams in the conference made it

 

I don't think I'd go by whose left.....The SW4A top 5 teams are the stronger in my opinion...Some of the seedings were rough on both conferences....Our #3 beat your #2...and your #3 beat our #5.....your #1 (SC)did beat our #4 and #2.....but still some baseball to be played....SC still looks like the team to beat for sure..they are tough on any night....Butler is the only one left standing for the SW4A....we'll see!!!

 

I have to agree with Coach Bagwell. I believe that the NW4A has the edge in the top of the conference, but from top to bottom there is no question the SW4a holds the cards.

 

There will never be a way to settle this but the end result is there are two left standing - one from each. And SW has more teams in to start