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Where have all the coaches gone?

Discussion in 'Softball Forum' started by catchers_dad60, Jun 15, 2007.

  1. catchers_dad60

    catchers_dad60 Large Member

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    Anyone besides me surprised by the announcement in The Charlotte Observer that coach Lloyd from Butler has resigned his position? :huh2:
     
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    Why are you surprised?

    Why is it such a big surprise to anyone that coaches move around and do the best that they can for themselves and their families??? It is a THANKLESS job...and I haven't seen too many softball coaches that have become wealthy coaching our kids...at any level.

    With all the complaining and poison darts thrown at most high school coaches by parents, players, and know-it-all bystanders, it's a wonder that they stay as long as they do. High school coaches don't make enough money for the abuse that they take every season. It ain't an easy way to make a living.
    That's just my opinion...I'm sure others will disagree.
    DDD
     
  3. cheeze105

    cheeze105 Moderator Staff Member

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    AGREE

    if really spend the time on the field thats required, it comes down to about $2.25/hour. thats figuring about 500+ hours of conditioning & weight room, practice and games.
     
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    If he wants to be rich, then he should have played/coached professional sports, not HS! It shouldn't be all about the money; what about "its for the young ladies" mindset?
     
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    why didn't he announce it on tbr also??:surrender:

    "for the girls mindset" don't even work with the parents that are raising their girls when it comes to decisions made in the home. can't expect others to always give up their life for someone else's kid over their own home.
     
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    fair comment...I also believe that if u are in it just for the $$$, u won't be as successful as coach Lloyd was.
     
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    cheeze105 Moderator Staff Member

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    Every hs coach i know, including myself, do it for the girls, most of us have no budget to speak of and the money we make goes right back into the program (pitching machines, nets, gloves for those who dont have any and shoes). I actually did this for no pay for the first two years and starting getting paid only because it was costing me quite a bit to buy gloves and shoes and bats for the girls. our booster club contributes for equipment now, but it was a long hard road to get them to do that.
     
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    different

    it's just different for some of us oldtimers. we grew up and played HS sports back in the day when coaches were like highly-respected icons of the community, and a lot of long-term commitments and loyalty. that's changed some and not just in HS sports, but generally in society.
     
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    Agree

    I agree, just a short time ago coaches demanded respect and if a kid didn't give it they were in trouble when they got home, but now few give respect and few demand it, most of the good caoches got tired of all the bs they had to put up with from the kids and parents and now you have the coaches that play the kids with the wright last name not always the best, it's a shame that a kid can work their butts off and sit because they have the wrong last name! There are still a few that demand a kid give 110 percent and demand respect and play the best 9, all have winning programs with 100 percent parent backing. :kid:
     
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    Let me clarify...

    Of course the coaches coach "for the kids." That's the thing that makes the hours and hours of work worthwhile. The "for the kids" mindset is a given.

    What complicates things are teacher's salaries (usually underpaid), the small stipend that is paid to coach HS sports, and the dealing with all the complaining from the parents & players who feel they've been slighted by a coach that is trying their best to win games.

    When you put it all together, the "value" and "satisfaction" of coaching high school sports is not always worth the trouble of doing so. I think EOR's comment about "the old days" is a very valid point. When I grew up, you supported the team and the coaches, regardless of the win/loss record. Of course, you knew when a coach made a bone-headed decision, however, you made a much better effort to keep the comments to yourself than people do now-a-days.

    Today, people complain about the coaches, AD's, facilities, statisticians, roster selection, all-star selections, strength of schedules, and a whole lot of other things that are not listed here. And, if you don't compete for a state championship, people will actually try to run you out of town. Or, the kids move to a more competitive team in another district and leave their hometown team behind. When did the stakes get so high?
     
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