Bonds

Oh, so he has the best hand-eye coordination of left-handers? What you said earlier that he has the best hand-eye coorindation ever, but now its off left-handers. Good try buddy whats next, he has the best hand-eye coordination off Tom Glavine? He has the best hand-eye coordinaion in my new MLB game?

Does anybody remember the HR that Albert Pujols hit off of Brad Lidge in the LCS? Whats your point with the HR? It was Barry's night to shine and he did, big deal so what.

Yea I can't argue with what he has done but I can argue with how he has done it. If his own personal trainer won't testify against him then I have to make my own judgements. You would have to be a moron to think otherwise.

 

And you have to be a complete moron for saying I cant pull for Barry... Yeah I dont like that he has taken steroids... And Where in the world did you get he has the best hand eye coordination off leftys CAN YOU READ, I Was giving an example of how quick he can pick up the ball... But the ball Albert Pujols was a slider! And it was Hanging up there like a dang beach ball. SO read what I wrote before you start putting words in my mouth. I have my opinoin you have yours I like Barry becasue he has an unreal work out. Maybe he took steroids but did any of you happen to catch the beyon 756 thing last night Dusty Baker has said it time and time again he works very hard and has one of the most challenging work outs in the game. And that Man has seen alot of good ball players. You cant say this person has done things the right way and this person does not have a work ethic he just uses needles. You dont know them personally, you dont help them work out or put the needle in there "butt" so you dont have a clue of what they do outside of whats shown on ESPN or Baseball tonight.

 

If you find a place where I said you can't pull for Barry then please feel free to quote me on that.

Was Dusty Baker his own personal trainer? Why won't Greg Anderson testify....wait maybe you are Greg Anderson......

I never said anything about Barry's workout. But when you have people like his ex-wife saying she knew about steroids, people that use to work at BALCO coming out and is own personal trainer being put in jail because he won't testify against Barry, then I have to make assumptions about his steroid use.

 

Good call buddy NOT!... All I am saying is I think Barry is the greatest to ever play the game (my opinoin). And you said A-Rod and Roger have done what they have done w/o controversy... A-Rod is not getting ready to break any records you dont have a clue what A-Rod or Roger does maybe your their trainers sike!... And Dusty was not his personal trainer but he was his coach for years... So I will take his words over yours any day.

 

i admit, i was wrong about bonds not being a complete player. I just dont want him to be as good as he really is. Bonds is a criminal in my mind and he is a disgrace to the game. If you haven't read "game of shadows" you should. Great read and very informative...not just about bonds but all of balco's clients

 

Do you honestly believe that? How long do you think fans would attend a MLB game if they felt a game was rigged? If they felt that the manager could, at any point, affect a game to help increase his chances of winning a bet. Not only would they quit going to the games, but baseball would be tarnished in the eyes of their fans forever...and would take a long, long time to recover (if they could ever recover).

Although steroids, illegal drugs and player's actions have stained the players and collaterally could affect baseball. It has never warranted the fans to feel the game has been ruined...just the players involved.

What Pete did could have ruined the game.

 

You won't get many arguments there!!!

 

I think Bonds has caused bad publicity for the game... but he is not the only one. Giambi, Palmerio, The Pitcher for the D-Backs cant rem his name. There are a few more than Bonds. If Bonds was a palmerio or some one like that we would not be saying a word about him.

 

I blame

ML baseball itself and the players union. They knew that steroids were a problem but they put their head in the sand and reaped the benefits of the long ball era. Every rule change that they have instituted was to increase run production. Lower the mound , bringing the fences at the new launching pads , changing the baseballs , the DH rule etc etc etc. They wanted more runs they wanted more HR's because the fans wanted it. Not the educated fans of baseball that love to see defense , great pitching and timely hitting. No the guy that has no clue about the game but loves to go to the yard and see ball after ball jacked out of the yard. ML baseball only began to "care" about the steroid problem when certain people began to close in on sacred records and certain people began to question the integrity of the game. Bonds has become the poster boy of "We cant have Steroids in our game". "We cant have cheaters in our game". The reason the resentment has become greater for Bonds than the other cheaters is Bonds arrogance and his demeanor. And the fact that he is going to break the all time HR record held by a guy no one would ever say is or ever was a cheater "Hank". Why was there no testing in the first place? Why when the steroid problem became obvious did it take so long for testing to begin? So Bonds never tested positive. I do not have to give a drug test to a guy standing on the corner with a crack pipe in his pocket that weighs 110lbs a drug test to know that he uses crack. Maybe some of you do. Many will argue that he could always hit and the steriods do not make you a better hitter. But do they turn warning track shots into HR's? Do they allow you to play longer at a higher level of play? I personally am at the point where I could careless if he is in the HOF or not. The entire era of baseball is tainted. The record book is tainted. The real HR king in my mind and many others will still be Hank regardless of Bonds does.

 

Actually saw an article on A-Rod's training program and he bust his butt. Roger Clemens use to come to my college and throw pens and workout while his son Kolby was playing rookie ball. So yes, I have seen Roger workout.