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Should high school coaches coach summer teams?

Discussion in 'Baseball' started by baserunning, Jul 30, 2007.

  1. One Putt

    One Putt Full Access Member

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    This exact thing has happened at our place. Not the recruiting aspect, the internal bickering. Another issue is what happens when a HS coach picks one kid from his HS team and not another? It further divides the school team. We have seen kids bickering even when both got picked. It's a mess.
     
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    There are different scenarios:
    1. A high school coach helps out with a team for the love of coaching, or even a summer job doing what he has a passion for .
    2. A coach helping out his HS team during batting lessons/ coaching
    3. But the one that gets me is a coach that would help form/choose the players for a showcase team and choose a few players from his own HS team and others then go off and spend the summer coaching and practicing with these selected players. In this situation, many players choose leave the HS team and lose alot of respect for coaching and the game of baseball. Ive watched this happen to a group that I have coached before.In the end it only hurts the team as a whole and possibly the program.
    However there are many great coaches out there that want to see each and every player on their team succeed and they dont get caught up in the politics. They may not be the best player as a freshman but within the four years they grow and learn and train and become the best. Baseball is about the players...pitching, catching, hitting, making plays, winning, losing, attitude, being a leader, but we are raising role models and athletes, as coaches, parents and players,I hope we dont lose sight of what it takes to raise athletes, men and maybe one day, heros.
     
  3. moesyslak

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    familiarity breeds comtempt
     
  4. coachevans26

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    I think there are some valid points here. I have been involved with a showcase team that has had my players on it. I will say that in my case, I have had very little, if any "say" in the selection of the teams, except to recommend that these kids are looked at and considered. I have always been told that our team will not take my kids if they arent good enough. I let the other coaches evaluate my players in that aspect. I have done it in the same way as when I coached in the State Games, that other coaches evaluate my players to insure fairness and hopefully the best players are selected. On the other hand, my players at home played for a coach that I felt really good about him coaching my younger players, due to his experience. He did a good job with them and I made myself available to help in any way he wanted, all he had to do is ask. I can only speak for myself.

    I think that sometimes kids need to hear things from someone else, it only validates what we teach. Another, new set of eyes may see something I dont, if someone else can see a flaw I missed and make my HS players better, then I dont have a problem with it. Does it mean I am a poor coach, not necessarily, it just means that someone else either saw something I missed, or the "light came on" when he explained it in a different manner than I.
     
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    Explain that one, please. I am not sure where you are headed with this one...
     
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    Not speaking for Moesyslak.... I thought he was simply quoting the old saying commenting on the human tendency to devalue the qualities of those we've known the longest.

    From various quotations pages:
    "Familiarity breeds contempt." Aesop Greek Fabalist (6th century B.C.)

    "Familiarity breeds contempt, while rarity wins admiration." Apuleius Roman philosopher, rhetorician, & satirist (124 AD - 170 AD)
    "Familiarity breeds contempt - and children." Mark Twain
     
  7. Plate Dad

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    Well put!!! I need that book.:hurray:
     
  8. Plate Dad

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    I think it comes down to the coach. What is his goals for the program? If it is player development at what level. I think that some teams could compete with the elite showcase teams. Barring their players play for that team. Let's use this example; What about this one. The Dirtbags or SC Panthers play this years 4-A State Champions. It would be a great game. Thoughts?
     
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    most of these kids now play for their coaches beginning in the spring, then summer then fall and in nov start off season winter workouts all with the same coach. i know some kids who took up football for their first time as jr's and sr's because they said they couldn't stand being around thier coach another day. sometimes kids just need a different person and let's face it there are some fine baseball men who aren't high school coaches. it has been traditionally that way and there's a reason that worked.
     
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    My kid plays football and loves it as much as baseball. And while he likes his baseball coach, he does enjoy getting a break from the game of baseball, but not necessarily the coach. The coach isn't the problem. The demands of the sport are at times. Baseball workouts start in December, 8 man's in Jan. and part of Feb., tryouts in Feb. and the practice and games through May. Colt or summer ball in late May until July. August is an off month. fall ball starts in Sept. through part of Nov. 2 weeks off in Nov. and then back at it.
     

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