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Organizational Allegiance

Discussion in 'Softball Forum' started by Coach Roger, Nov 19, 2007.

  1. Coach Roger

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    When you say a player may outgrow what a team has to offer, what is the angle of that? She progressed faster than the ability of the coaching staff to keep up? The play of her teammates was not to her elevated standards? Worthy competition unavailable? Just wondering.
     
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    EITHER OR---- GREAT THOUGHT !!!


    Either the coach is looking for studs or the parent is looking for perfection....excellent thought provoking thread !!!! OR MAYBE A LITTLE OF BOTH BY THE PARENTS OF THE TEAM PUSHING THE WEAKER KID OUT, OR THE COACH BENCHING THE KID TO MAKE HER UNHAPPY...SEEN IT HAPPEN A NUMEROUS OF TIMES...OH WELL,CARRY ON....THE HOLIDAYS ARE ALMOST HERE...THE AVERAGE PERSON CONSUMES OVER 7,000 CALORIES DURING THANKSGIVING....WOOOOOAH !!!!

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    I wish the HOT sign was on at KK on Thanksgiving Day.
     
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    HEY ROG


    YOU AND ME BOTH---BABY !!!-----------LOL

    :th_10_8_12:--------------GURU
     
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    Fastpitch softball is still evolving. Team Allegiances and Commitments will improve as Parents move away from coaching responsibilities. The Parent-as-Coach dynamic is a major obstacle to good team chemistry. Some teams are able to overcome this but so many more are not.

    If I was starting over with my daughter, I would seek a team from the beginning that did not have a parent coaching - even if it cost more money to play there.
     
  6. softball4ever1987

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    I think...

    I agree with a lot of the posts in this thread:
    I think it would be nice if we could keep the progress that the sport has earned over the past few years, but go back to some values from the past.
    If you make a committment to a team then keep that committment, at least for that season! (Except in extreme cases) If at anytime a parent feels that a situation is not good for their child, they should remove their child from that situation! But remember, there comes a time when a child should make their own decisions!
    If you make promises, assurances to a player, keep your word! Don't lie or tear down a player just because.
    Do not back stab anyone! The kid you stab today may grow up to be the doctor that could save your life one day. The parent you stab today could turn out to be your boss. Karma is an evil twin that you do not want to tick off!
    Do not be 2faced! Believe me, most of what you say to someone, about somebody, gets said to someone else! If you can't say anything nice, say nothing! If you are saying something nice, but do not mean it, do not say it!
    If you are playing for reasons such as: friend time, social time, just for fun! Play rec ball, that is the arena for that type of play! TB is for serious athletes that want to play at the next level! It is not for trophies, or ribbons to display on your wall or a coach's! it is to give players the chance to earn a scholarship to play at the next level. You will give up a lot of your spare time to TB. You will not be home to go to a friends party on Saturday!
    Players remember there is always someone trying to beat you out for your position, do not stop trying to be the best! The young guns are always coming and they want to replace you!
    Be honest! Your word should be worth more than any amount of money! If you tell people the truth to start with, then you don't have to worry about what you've said!
    Trust is something you should give to someone who has earned it!
    Loyality is a two way street!
    Respect should be expected, when given!
    If we all could live by these simple values things would be a lot simpler!
     
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    Sure reads like simple set of instructions. Something happens in the implementation phase however. It seems like it should be so easy to put those things together. But it just seems that as a rule, you just can't get there.
     
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    WELL SAID !!!

    I just know from experience when things are going good we are HAPPY, and when they are not we are ready to move on !!! Human nature tells you to protect your family and their needs, and this is not always going to be popular with everybody involved..but I can't argue with committment, I have failed and probably will again,but least I'm honest about it !!!
     
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    Hey

    Guru creates a great number of thought provocative posts! U are a good man.

    U know the root of all the evil is Showcase/travel ball/college recruiting. In 2000, when Blues started, we played for fun, had a quality group of kids that loved being with each other and could care less about who got credit for win or loss! Our first taste of things to come was 2001 when we won everytime we hit the field and our best player was recruited by an organization of long standing to come play with them! She left us three days before our trip to Vegas to play Nationals! Travel ball has created more of the Me menatality and the competition that creates the stealing of ball players or a better term the free movement of players to "greener pastures". It also teaches U that even friends will do U wrong over a ball player or two. Also, many people convince parents and kids if your kid is not seen by the time they leave middle school, they have no chance of getting recruited and my gosh if by your sophmore year UCLA has not come to call, U are sunk. Such bull!
    Now the good side! The Blues and other teams have helped kids gain access to college because of the softball scholarships that they may not have received without travel ball and has helped them get to schools that they may not have gotten to attend. Many wonderful relationships have developed due to softball, love the feeling when attending signings of players, and love watching them play at their colleges. Also enjoy the young kids as they do something really good and the smile they have when you acknowledge that accomplishment!
    Please pledge U will not enter into the DOG EAT DOG arena, U will not step on others to get what U want, and U will let your DD enjoy the "GAME" of softball, other things will take care of themselves!
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    From personal experience sticking through a commitment can be overrated.

    Friends you have made still get upset if you leave and coaches get upset. Finishing the season didn't help with that at all. In this case we went from a B level team in Georgia to an A level team. That was the only reason for leaving.

    I made my daughter miserable for months honoring a commitment until seasons end. We didn't want hard feelings and we got them anyway.

    When my daughter speaks I listen. If she decides it's time for a change and her reasons are solid we will make that change in or out of season.

    Hopefully we never change teams again!!
     

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