Not baseball related but!

There is not one QB

in the ACC as dynamic as Edwards. He stretches the defense with the run threat , and the pass. He makes everyone around him better. The best QB in the ACC Matt Ryan from BC is not nearly as dynamic as Edwards. If Clemson had him they would be ACC champs this year. No disrespect to their QB but how much pressure does he really put on a defense? No where near the amount of pressure that Edwards puts on a defense. Im not talking about who projects the best at the next level. Im talking about who is the best college QB. Dixon from Oregon is just a bigger version of Edwards. Look what he meant to that team. There is no doubt that if he had not gotten hurt he would have had a great chance to win the Heisman Trophy and most likely his team would have played for a NC. The college QB that can threaten with the run as well as the pass opens up the field bigtime and makes everyone around him a bigger threat. The Edwards kid is awesome. He shreds defense's.

 

Hate to burst your bubble, but Vandy,wake Forest and Memphis tried to steal him away from App St after he committed. Grades were apparently not an issue. You need to move on to your next reason he's not playing for a D-1 school which would be??????????

 

Speaking directly with a WF coach(s) after playing golf with them today, they did not offer nor heavily recruit Edwards. An inquirey was made. That's it.

 

A lot of truth in this.

 

PHP:

They have a profile they look for. A certain size and certain speed a certain body type etc etc. 

I would submit that baseball scouts and recruiters are not all that different from their football counterparts. The trend toward greater reliance upon quantitative methods of evaluating players (especiallly in the pros) causes them increasingly to become little more than "square fillers;" looking for a narrow band of physical and performance-oriented traits. Meanwhile, intangible dimensions such as "makeup" and "competitive drive" receive little more than lip service.

I'd bet a fair amount of money that the words "original thought" and "courage" show up nowhere on any major league scout's job description. It's not too different from the "old saw" used in the workplace: "No one was ever fired for recommending IBM." ...despite the fact that the alternative might have worked better.

Whether in football or baseball, the "Armanti Edwards's" are at risk of being passed over by the "lemmings" that observe and report back on them. Fortunately, a few...like the real Armanti Edwards...succeed in spite of the deck that's stacked against them.

 

I think Armanti Edwards is a great player. I enjoy watching him and he's the most dynamic player I've ever seen at the 1-AA/FCS level. He definitely has NFL potential.

However I disagree that he is a better QUARTERBACK than all the guys in the ACC. You have to factor in the level of competition these teams play against. There's guys like Colt Brennan at Hawaii who don't have the arm strength or savvy of a Matt Ryan (BC) or a Cullen Harper (Clemson) that can be in a weak conference of D1-A like Hawaii is and set all kinds of records. If a QB of this calliber was in D1-AA instead of a smaller D1-A school, the numbers they put up would be even more ridiculous.

Also, if Armanti faced defenses as fast as the Virginia Tech's of the world that are found in the ACC, he wouldn't be able to run all over them as much. The mobile QB has less and less success as you move up from pop warner, to high school, to D2, to D1AA, to D1A, to the NFL. It works in D1A to some degree, but you don't have guys rushing for 313 yards in a game from the quarterback position.

ABSOLUTELY ALL the great quarterbacks in the NFL, and most of the successfull QB's at the D1A level in college, have been guys who can pass from the pocket even when the opposing team knows they are passing. Edwards often has success passing but it's because the defenses he plays against have to put so much emphasis on stopping his run that there's no one else left to stop the pass. ACC defenses would be able to contain the run way easier and still be able to put more effort in to their coverages against him.

The App/Michigan game was amazing and I'm really glad App won and it's great for NC sports as a whole. But beating Michigan to me partly just further proves how weak the Big 10 is on a national level due to shear lack of speed. App players breezed right past Michigan's all day long, similar to the way UF's players did it to OSU last year and LSU's will do to OSU in a couple weeks.

 

FCS or FBS

How would they stack up agaisnt each other. We know that there are strong football programs out there in both groups. What is the separtion requirement? I thought it was how much scholorship money a school puts out there. If you put Wake & App on the field who would win. Same with Carolina and App. I think the Wake & App would be a toss up, Carolina would be crushed. So the Div I FCS or FBS holds some weight but not much. You have some great college QB out there. They do some great things. The fact that one out of the many will make it to the pros is just like in baseball. Many will try few will make it.

 

There have been a lot of great points made in this thread and there is nothing I could add that has not been expressed.

I would like to say that I really don't care who he plays for---I just like to watch him play. He is fun to watch no matter what color uniform, but I would bet for him what he enjoys that the players at UNC, NC State and others across the state won't....is a National Championship ring!!!! And those, my friends, are rare.

 

Comparing App to UNC is a biased comparison of FCS and FBS. You're taking by far the best D1AA team and one of the worst D1A teams. Why don't we compare Western Carolina to LSU instead? Obviously there's a huge difference in the ACC, SEC, Pac 10.....and D1AA. In fact, the Southern Conference is probably the STRONGEST D1AA conference in the nation and still half of the Southern Conference would get ran off the field by a below average D1A team like UNC.

I'm not questioning how good App is. I'm questioning how good the teams App plays AGAINST are, compared to the teams BC and Clemson and the rest of the ACC plays AGAINST.

Armanti is great but all im saying is keep in mind the competition level difference.

 

He looked pretty good against Michigan

Is there another QB in the ACC that could rush for over 300 yds against Richmond throw for almost 200 and score 6 touchdowns? Who?

Great post Prepster I totally agree with you. Forget about the NFL we are talking college.