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When Is It Obstruction ??

Discussion in 'Softball Forum' started by Softball Guru, Mar 3, 2008.

  1. slapyasilly

    slapyasilly Softball dadda

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    did get off track there

    sorry about that. it was an interesting discussion all the same.

    Seems like a no win for your runner. I have seen that before, just never had seen anyone call it. I doubt I would have called interference if the runner was clearly giving the defense playing space. your right, someone wasnt going to be happy here. Just ended up being you ...this time.
     
  2. jester

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    You're right

    There are situations that are 'no wins'. I guess I'm lucky in that I get to see it from both points of view, as an ump and a coach. I hope everyone understands I'm not bashing umps here. There are usually over 300 calls made in a game and I'm sure every ump wants and tries to get every one of them right. Several times I have been told that I made a bad call, my usual response is 'it wasn't bad, just unpopular with half the people'. I also remember, before I question an ump, he doesn't question me about a bonehead call I made as a coach. LOL
     
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    New scenerio...

    runner on 1st, batter hits to shortstop, shortstop throws to 2nd to get lead runner, 2nd turns to attempt possible doubleplay. Now... if the lead runner does not slide, comes in standing. Is that interference on lead runner as to keep from doubleplay attempt by 2nd. What is the slide rule and would it apply in this situation?
     
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    the slide rule is......

    .....to protect the runner going to 2nd teeth! No LOL here folks! Its the truth. If a runner wants to stand in the way, ....um, um, ummmm, I hate it for her. e.g. a batter bunts, catcher fields bunt, sees batter now runner in the baseline, OH!!!!!, uhhhh call time out?, NO. uhhh, throw the ball over her head? NO. Bam! you know where its going! Teach the game with respect for ALL rules coaches, especially the rules that save pain!
     
  5. cheeze105

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    obstruction seems to be the most called thing in our four games so far. we've been on the losing end of four calls in four games.

    situation #1: runner on second, ball hit to short stop who is playing behind the base line, charges the ball, catches the ball, turns and tags the runner from second knocking her down, throws to second for double play......umps hand went up, called obstruction????


    situation #2: our runner on second, short stop playing in the base line, ball hit past shortstop, in front of center fielder, runner runs into ss, play stopped, runner out for obstruction even though the ball was not playable by the ss and it was past the ss???


    situation #3: our runner at third, one at first, first stealing second, third goes to steal home, throw to ss, throw to home, runner slides at home, stopped short by catcher who is blocking the plate two feet up third base line and kneeling on runners foot waiting for the ball which is just leaving the ss hand....no call on blocking...

    four rough calls from three different umps, all with different definations of what obstruction/interference is.....perhaps it needs to be written in simpler language for all to understand how it should be called...jmho honestly, i'm not complaining, i'm just pointing out that sometimes things are called because of how they're interpeted vs how they were intended to be.
     
  6. Crazecoach

    Crazecoach For HIS Glory...

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    Well said fishman....


    This happened to us this week against a very good team. We had a double play ball to the SS, runner on 1st. SS fields the ball, toes 2nd base and comes across to fire at 1st for the double. She hits the runner while throwing(looked like a MMA fight, not a throw....no harm done though). I came out of the dugout, asked for a ruling on the slide/ no slide to break up 2. His words were, (and he is very respected by me and makes a lot of good calls) "It is to protect the runner. If she wants to get hit in the head, she takes that risk." I asked why it wouldn't be obstruction because she never attempted to move and he said the runner is intitled to a part of the bag and it was a bang-bang play. Once again, if she wants to eat a ball it's her choice.
     
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    What is Obsruction?

    The only thing I can tell you is, if your runner was moving around the fielder to avoid the interference and no play was being made (i.e. the step and reach for a tag), then the official was wrong in his interpretation of the baserunning rule.
    A runner has the obligation to allow the fielder to attempt her first play on a batted ball, the distance that she leaves the baseline in this situation is irrelavent. A baserunner that does go around a fielder making the first play on a batted ball, has now re-established her basepath. Only a baserunner leaving her established basepath to avoid a tag (if she goes more than 3 feet) can be called out for being out of the baseline.
     
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    Cheeze, YOU GOT HOSED (situation 2 & 3)!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! buy stupid umpires that do not know the rules. Not sure about situation 1--- was there runners on 1st and 2nd? the ss made the out on the runner from 2nd and then got the out a 2nd on the runner on 1st. Why obstruction??? what did they do give them a triple play????

    nc2aump what do you think about these umpires ???? admit they don't know the rules!!!!!
     
  9. cheeze105

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    other team had runners on 1st and 2nd, runner advanced to third, force at second. just wrong about the rules and a not so good call....
     
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    What about AFTER the fielder has had opportunity to field ball? In our game yesterday, 2B bobbled ball, the ball went behind her. The runner from first ran into fielder as she was trying to locate ball. Runner called out for interference. Correct or incorrect?
     

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