Scoring questions

.600 batting averages rise to epic proportions in 2008

We all know that as long as the 1st baseman did not touch it then it is a HIT...if you don't believe me then check the rulebook:

Section 1 Article 2 Paragraph 3: A batted baseball that goes thru the legs of any infielder, as long as it is not touched, shall be scored a LEGIT single BUT only if the official scorer is Johnny's dad, mom, aunt, uncle, grandfather or grandmother otherwise it needs to be recorded as an error.

 

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Base Hit - Run scores on the error- no RBI

From the MLB Scorekeeping rules:
(b) The official scorer shall not credit a base hit when a:
(1) runner is forced out by a batted ball, or would have been forced out except for a fielding error;
(2) batter apparently hits safely and a runner who is forced to advance by reason of the batter becoming a runner fails to touch the first base to which such runner is advancing and is called out on appeal. The official scorer shall charge the batter with a time at bat but no hit;
(3) pitcher, the catcher or any infielder handles a batted ball and puts out a preceding runner who is attempting to advance one base or to return to his original base, or would have put out such runner with ordinary effort except for a fielding error. The official scorer shall charge the batter with a time at bat but no hit;

The key elements you described:
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2) Pitcher fields ball and throws to third to get lead runner out - but throw is too late.

You didn't say the pitcher could have gotten the lead runner with a routine play. If the runner advancing to 3rd had the throw beat it's a hit for the batter and the runner advances on the throwing error, so no RBI.

 

Thanks for the help. Just to be clear. The runner at third clearly beat the throw to third. The throw going to third could not have beaten the runner there no matter what. I did not make that clear in the original question. Also in response to several of the responses that said that you could credit a SAC and a FC on the same play - that will not work with Digital Scout program on Palm Pilot - or as least I haven't figured how to do it - it does not allow for that option. Thanks for all the input. The consensus seems to me to be in agreement with the original scoring.

 

n2,

I use a program called fixedit baseball scorebook. It does have that option available. If yours does not, I am not sure how you would go about scoring that type of play. I guess you would have to start with a SAC. Does it have SAC with errror? That way you could get the sac recorded, the runners moved up and then remove the error.