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Turning of a program

Discussion in 'Baseball' started by PLOWBOY, Apr 16, 2008.

  1. PLOWBOY

    PLOWBOY Member

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    Scenario:
    1) Historically strong program
    2) Devoted alumni
    3) Active boosters
    4) History of developing players for the next level.
    5) Top 10 ficility in State
    Looses successful Coach and Staff

    New Coach and Staff comes in
    1) Program weakens
    2) Alumni stops coming around
    3) boosters redirects attention
    4) facility hits rock bottom

    Talent: eight players on Varsity play for very successful Showcase programs with another two or three playing J.V.

    Question is, how long does it take a Coach and Staff to get a program back on track?
     
  2. Coach 27

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    Program

    Coaches have to have a strong work ethic and a desire to out work the competition. The players have to by into working harder and investing into the program. The boosters and facilities are nice to have but mean nothing if the coaches and players dont invest the work that it takes to be successful.

    When you have strong feeder programs that develop younger players and teach them the proper fundementals and work ethic needed to be successful you will have a strong hs program. When you have a weak feeder program and your players coming in have never played or been coached at a high level you are in for a long road.

    The coaches have to set the bar and the standard. The players have to be willing to accept that challenge. If not its not going to matter a whole lot. The programs that are traditionally strong year in and year out have coaching staffs that put in the extra hard work and set a great work ethic example for their players. And the players coming in have a strong work ethic and a solid baseball foundation built from great coaching at the levels prior to the hs level.

    Its starts way before they are freshman in hs. If a player waits until he is in hs to prepare to be a hs player he is way behind and so is the program. If the coaches at the hs are three month coaches then they will have three month players. And the ones that want more will suffer or transfer to a program where they will get what they feel they need.
     
  3. Braves

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    There it is. If it doesn't come from there, you can forget timelines
     
  4. Plate Dad

    Plate Dad It is what it is!!!!

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    My dimes worth

    I agree with Coach 27. You must have buy in. In a lot of school systems you will see more and more coaches that are instructors at the school. Schools are wanting to have control of the staff not so much the programs. They are pressuring coaches to be certified instructors (school). Without that peice of paper here comes the change. Many have found this out over the last few years. Any type of change will rock a program. Some more than others. If your coaching staff works hard, shows that there are no favorites. The program should recover. If not, there is a problem somewhere
     
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    A dime is not worth a nickle these days

    When you only invest 10 cents what type of return can you really expect?
     
  6. Plate Dad

    Plate Dad It is what it is!!!!

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    Ok

    Just for you I added another 95 cents worth. Happy now. Braves can you buy me lunch. :FOFastpizza: Somebody made me spend all my lunch money.
     
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    Lunch break

    He will be more than happy I'm sure. I will donate the lunchbox and hope that Replacements Inc has a locker for you.
     

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    Plate Dad It is what it is!!!!

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    So kind. And all this time I thought you were some bad guy.
     
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    Wish I knew the answer to that. We (SC) have that problem right now with our softball program. We had a very strong program year in, year out. but when our coach left to teach at another school our program hit the bottom and has never come back. We don't have the big crowds at games like we used to and don't seem to have the dedication from our girls like we once did. Nor do we have the numbers of players who have tried out for the team like in the past. Not blaming anyone just when a change is made things either go bad or get better very rarely stays the same. This wasn't our case when Parham took over baseball from Lanford. We just kept on moveing forward
     
  10. tj21

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    I like and agree with what Coach27 said, "a 3-month coach will have 3-month players"... This is very very true...

    Always told my sons that good players aren't just born that way,,, good players have worked hard and extra to get good...
     

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