NC Player of the Year

Right. But the reason these college coaches get out to watch these players for the first time is because of the IMPACT hype. I'm not saying the Dirtbag guys can't play, only that there are other guys who are just as good. I'm just saying that the IMPACT propoganda about the Dirtbag players is what attracts the scouts to them in the first place.

I never said they go in and offer Dirtbag players a scholarship blindly. Although I do think that IMPACT is becoming such a monopoly that the college coaches put a lotttt of stock in to what's said on IMPACT about these players (if the coaches' busy schedules keep them away from seeing the player a large number of times).

 

If college coaches are using Impact as their single source for recruiting, they would be in trouble...and so would the kids not mentioned on Impact, But that is not the case. Every player mentioned on Impact is deserved, but they can't list all of the outstanding ball players throughout this state.

There are so many outstanding players, not listed, that play for the Hurricanes, SC Panthers, Heat, Megastars, Cubs, etc.; whom all have verballed to a college or will be soon.

Here's why I get a little perturbed at the arrows slung at Impact. Most of the one's that do were not around when there was nothing...absolutely nothing ! There were no events that showcased the players around NC. There were no publications that directed a college coach to a particular player. There was no credibility established among any organization that college coaches in our region had for the players in NC. Sure a Freddy Suggs recommendation went a long way and others that had built a solid reputation, but how many players did that include statewide. It was not that long ago that colleges in our state rarely, if ever, recruited NC players. They thought the talent level was poor, so they recruited in Maryland, Florida, NY and other states. Our players were lucky if they even received a look from any college recruiter.

Andy Partin decided to do something about that. He has built an organization that has taken college recruiting in NC to a "new level". Everybody has benefitted. He has provided tournaments (when there was none) to NC teams to gain exposure to their players. He took the initiative to do something to help the players in NC. In my opinion, most players in our state owe him a debt of gratitude because before Andy, there was nothing!!

The Impact lists are his opinion (after getting much feedback from others). What weight one places on his lists is based on what credibility Andy has established. I suspect the recruiters for most colleges place a lot of credibility in Andy's opinions....but that didn't come by default. He had to earn it.

 

Impact is great for those who do benefit from it. Like I said, I wouldn't expect Andy to undersell his own Dirtbag players on his Impact website. The only point I want to get across is that there is indeed a bias, as would be expected. Any coach is going to be biased towards his players just like any parent would be biased towards their kid.

For example, at the Impact tournaments the Dirtbag teams always have the marquee games at the big college field on the Friday nights and Saturday afternoons. You don't find the Dirtbags playing 8:00 Sunday morning games at the local high schools where no scouts will be present.

He's certainly helping people, and even if he is just focusing on helping his own players he still deserves credit for just that.

 

It's also known that anyone who has a position of significance and is in the spotlight is going to receive both the accolades and some criticism. Example: President Bush (an extreme example but it makes my point). Andy Partin has a business that promotes high school baseball players and is considered a HIGHLY respected authority. However, recruiting talented players in any sport is highly subjective and prone to errors as well. I like hearing other people's opinions too. It appears that how something is presented (packaged) also has a rather large effect on the "buyer".

The Carolinas have many talented baseball players. Some get properly (overly) promoted and some do not. Such is life. For the less promoted players who have talent and love for the game I hope that they continue their journey and push themselves to get to the next level. Eventually, the "high schoolish" atmosphere will die away and the skills and talents of the player will be observed and "promoted" by college coaches and pro scouts in the upcoming years.

As they say: the cream will eventually rise to the top.

 

Excellent!!!!!

 

I for one am totally unbiased about this subject but according to the link below the Dirtbags do occasionally have to play at 8:00 Sunday morning at the local high school.

http://www.impactbaseball.com/news_detail.asp?NewsID=367

From a distance, it seems IMPACT has done a wonderful job promoting NC HS baseball. It seems that one instance has been pointed out where a player was not promoted and thats an extremely small sample size to draw from.

 

Since you brought that up, I'm exactly right about the game times yet again this weekend. The "Dirtbags" (the real team, not the 16 year olds), are playing a marquee friday night game at 7:00 on the big stage, App State.

Then, the very next day, they play two Saturday afternoon games back to back at the big stage again, at App State, at 1:20 and 3:45.

As I said in my previous posts, the most scouts are at Friday night games and Saturday afternoon games, and the most scouts are obviously at the big college facility rather than the high schools.

It's true that the YOUNG Dirtbags team is playing an early game sunday at the high school, but not the real Dirtbags. The times I stated in my earlier post that the real Dirtbags always play at are exactly accurate for this current tournament as well.

 

Question about NC Player of the Year....

OK.....not trying to stir any pots.....truly. I have nothing in this at all, but am curious. And, before I say this, I know without a doubt that Hanover is a fabulous player and will be a tremendous asset to the LSU team.

But, why wouldn't the NC Player of the Year "most likely" come from one of the state championship teams? I know, I know....it is an individual award....but I would think that baseball etiquette would somehow lean towards one of the MVP's of the state championship teams. Obviously, they would be the best players on the best teams, right?

Why would the POY be selected before the championships are done? Shouldn't it be judged by an entire body of work? For example, what if a player from Rocky Mount hits 9 homeruns and a triple in 10 at bats during the state championship series....wouldn't that need to be factored into the decision?

Don't blow me out of the water.....just curious.

 

Like Braves said before, if ya don't like it , start your own website. then you can see how much work Andy does......ill be back, going to get some cheese to go with all this wine!!

 

No whining here. It's just that someone brought up this weekend's schedule, and when I looked at it, it proved my point even more and the Dirtbags play at the exact times and locations that I said they always do.