D1 vs DII

Pitching is the biggest difference I agree.

 

With Flack being a senior he can't negotiate anything. If a team offers he might can negotiate maybe an extra $1,000 out of them but they don't owe him anything and if he don't like the offer then they will go on to next person who wants to sign. It's not fair for kids who do the right things throughout college but it's how the system is ran. They know they don't have to give him big money or something fancy because if he wants to play they can sign him for little to nothing at all because he has no more leverage.

 

Chad Flack not only plays DI, but he plays MAJOR DI.
If you think your team could maintain that ERA against major DI competition, I like your optimism.

 

Well you told me to compare and so I did. How do you kow D1 talent doesn't come to D2 and get hit all over the park or D2 pitching comes up and throws lights out and shoves it up D1 players butts. Well his MAJOR talent really got him a high draft pick. Just becuase your D1 talent doesn't offer up a 1 million dollar contract.

 

A NDFA can sign with any team=leverage.
A 40th+ round drafted senior can sign with only one team and has zero leverage.

 

Yea he can sign with any team but what kind of money will he be getting. He would be lucky to get 5,000 dollars and at the rate you could deliver pizza's and make a lot more. Plus if you suck, they say bye bye and no strings attached. Maybe he signs a FA and makes it to the big leagues but at any point he gets injured or goes into a slump, there is a good chance he will get cut and if his injury is to bad, no one will take him. Maybe signing for $1,500 dollars is enough for him to keep on playing but man at that rate you have no money left over when it is said and done and if you get an injury that could ruin your whole career outside of baseball.

Heck I just got done playing four years of college ball and I have no leverage what so ever. He can't hardly negotiate anything within his contract and he can't determine anything about his future within that organization because he is on a short string to begin with.

 

We're talking opinion here...which is like noses: everyone has one.

Me? I've studied both levels & am convinced that the top 30 D2 can compete in D1. Would they be ranked? Only a select few (see Mt Olive).

I watched Belmont Abbey play the Naval Academy (32-25) in March. BA had played 5 games in 3 days & had limited pitching. It was Navy's first game of the week. The umpires shafted us so badly that their fans & players apologized (honest). Final: 11-9 Navy. But trust me: the best team lost.

What does this prove? Nothing, except I suggest that D2 deserves more respect from you, 007.

 

The best Division 2 teams are as good as the worst Division 1 teams, sure.

But if Flack hit .280 in the ACC and another guy hit .400 in Division 2, there's a very good chance that the D2 kid wouldn't hit any better (if even as good) as the .280 Flack put up in the ACC. It is most definitely like one person said, comparing apples and oranges.

It's the same thing as saying that an arena league quarterback who throws 70 TD's is better than an average NFL Quarterback like Jake Delhomme. That arena league guy WISHES he could be an average NFL quarterback rather than an arena league stud. That D2 kid hitting .400 WISHES he could be in UNC's lineup batting .280 and going to Omaha.

Teams like UNC beat the tar out of even the low-to-mid D1 teams. If UNC was to play Division 2 ball they would absolutely feast on the pitching.

Here's my question. Is it possible...That another reason Flack didn't get drafted, other than the fact he's a senior with no leverage, is that he doesn't really project in to a major league fielder? What position will he play? I know he played both 3rd and 1st at UNC but I'm not sure that he has the glove to play in the big leagues. Just a thought.

 

Here ya go...this was supposed to be on top of the thread

 

Given the rise of AAU and showcases, these guys are facing each other all the time and I really think the difference has narrowed. Plus, the reality is most of the tremendous HS talent ends up in the minors instead of college ball anyways.

Braves, your son and LCLefty have both faced guys and done well against guys who went on to the minors as well as D1 programs even though they both went DII. Both of you can speak well to the differences you see.