UNCW Softball

Scholarship $$

What I meant to say was that compared to some other programs in the CAA UNCW was UNDER funded. The NCAA allows 12 full scholarships for softball. This $$ can be split as coaches see fit. Five years ago Coach Jarrell had 7.5 schollies. This is fewer that the D2 limit. Other teams in the CAA are similarly underfunded (see George Mason). I can't speak to the actual coaching salary other than to say that there were individuals interviewed that would have had to have taken a pay cut to gone there.

 

...let me get this straight, do I understand you to say that even though D1 has 11.5 full scholarships worth of $, UNCWs atheletic dept. could only afford 7 full scholarships of $ to be dispersed over 20 some kids?
If thats the case....then how can any coach expect to be competitive?

 

In 2004 . . . .

UNCW had 7.5 TOTAL scholarships to work with; at least this is what we were told by the head coach during my DD's official visit. Perhaps the situation has changed but I would be shocked if they have full a complement. It might surprise you to find out that many D1 programs have less than 12 (it is 12; baseball is 11.5), especially schools like UNCW that do not have football. My best guess is that probably only 4 CAA schools have the full complement.

 

Dollars

It seems to me that if there's no football, then there should be more $$ to go around. But in the same token, football brings in alot of $$. Can't wait for the 10th.

 

You've got to understand that . . . .

virtually all funding decisions regarding women's collegiate athletics are driven by gender equity considerations. Any school receiving federal funds (public or private) must be able to demonstrate substantially equitable treatment for male and female athletes. Without title IX there would likely be no NCAA fastpitch softball. Schools with football teams must balance it with more opportunities for females. Who has the best collegiate softball facilities in America? Collectively, it's the SEC schools. Is it because the AD's at these schools love softball? No . . . it's driven by football and football $$.

 

....OK, I understand title IX. And I can follow your opinion of SEC softball/football for now. Here is my question......Miami, Clemson, both have rocking revenue from football. Duke can support ALL womens sports just from their basketball program. Now, why do these 3 examples not have fastpitch?
Just asking for your opinion as well as others on TBR.

IMO:
1. These schools obviously have in place a "fair" title IX approach in their athletic dept. that funds maybe womens golf or field hockey etc.

Last questions:

I remember title IX coming around say 1979ish?
Does title IX dictate some equal distribution on inter collegiate $ for womens/mens sports?
If so, then can an institution, say Duke, put 3 million into womens soccer and forgo say, womens golf?
Or is the equal distribution geared towards the # of scholarships per sport as I belive is true?
And if not womens fastpitch, then what other sports are "taking" the place of softball, in the schools athletics program?

Last, I remember my brothers girlfriend was a scratch golfer at NCSU in 1980ish, and NCSU folded the womens golf team, so she went to Ohio St.
Of well, shit happens.

 

Lots of questions; some answers

Last year I authored my university's (don't make any assumptions about what U based on my board name) Gender Equity Plan so I could literally write a thesis on this. For the answer to your main question click here:

Cheap way to satisfy Title IX

You will note that Clemson & Miami also have teams. No, there is not a requirement for equal expenditures. Generally, schools are required to sponsor sports in proportion to their student body OR as a reflection of the interest of the student body. This can get very complicated. Few people understand what is needed for compliance and, in fact, the courts are still defining all the nuances.

Softball is seen by many as a sentinel sport for gender equity commitment because it is not facility shared by males. I encourage parents to look carefully at things like locker rooms and other training facilities compared to male sports.

Here is a data base that tells some of the story:

http://ope.ed.gov/athletics/

 

Rowing

.... is from what I've read is why Clemson has no softball team. There is a lake close by, so it beats having to build a softball stadium. It still sucks !!

 

Nah . . . .

all those girls who participate on the high school and travel rowing teams in the "upstate" need a place to go to school!

 

Other schools

There are D-11 schools with 3.5 full rides and their schools cost $30,000+ to attend! These same school's coaches are pressured to have 20 plus players on their roster! In my mind, they have no intention or worries about a quality program, just getting more kids on campus and providing a ladies' sport! I think if you ask most of these coaches, they are constantly looking for some way to make money or get donations, so they can keep their softball diamond fit to play softball! Oh forgot, then admissions and or AD's want to know why 1/4 of the team quit the team and or left school! Dah huh!