Taking Athletics Away from Schools????

In defense of DDD... there are several instances where complete programs are penalized - which includes innocent players. For example, a coach is caught doing something against the NCHSAA rules and the team is penalized with a year suspension. Is that fair to players who have nothing to do with the rule breaking?

It does seem though that Raleigh is trying to use a 33" Rocketech to swat a fly when a fly swatter would do a much better job with little collateral damage. In my opinion, the problem with schools that fall below standards lies with the administration and likely the teachers of that school. And the flyswatter approach would be to fire the administrators or problem teachers. But that is politically very difficult so Raliegh has to pretend to do something so they punish the athletes(who cant play anyway if their grades are too low) as if that will accomplish the goal.

The beef here is with Raleigh not a poster who is trying to justify the action. Contact your state congressman or senator and let your feelings be known.

 

easy now, don't go after the teachers pal. When english as a second language is a course of study in NC schools, and when the parents of the students can't speak a lick of english, and when kids cruise into school with a gun in their backpack, don't tell me its the teachers fault!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
.....I before E except after C works 99% of the time but it doesn't click when spelling RALEIGH. lol

 

Not schools fault

90% or more of the time it is not the schools or teachers fault. It is the students or parents (or lack of) fault. School is what the student wants it to be. I live in a district that would probably fall into this law. But there are students that go to Carolina, Duke, State, Wake, and even have had 1 to go to MIT. You can't make someone learn when they don't choose to.

 

Unfortunately...

there are students who come from backgrounds where education is not a priority...they follow the example of the generation before them and do not know how to break the cycle. Then there are those who just do not care about school and want to be anywhere else, but there.

My point is that we need to identify the individual problem areas and try to come up with a solution for that school or district without throwing a led blanket over the whole system. Not sure how to do that, but I still say that you can't punish everyone because of the actions of a few.

It may be that the problem areas need to identify a curriculum that suits the needs of the children there; for example, if your school has more kids from a farming community offer agricultural classes that would gain the interest of those guys that know they will be on the family farm one day and then throw in the english and math on the side.

 

I got it right 66% of the time... can I still play?

 

Up here we had, for a short season, a school that was specifically designed exactly for this type of student, ie students who were disruptive or otherwise just did not want to be in HS. They put them all in the same place and there were many success stories not to mention the fact that you were left with kids who wanted to be in school. It was a win win.

Well they closed the school... guess why.... ?

The state department of education thought if they were with the so called good kids it might serve as a catalyst for them to turn their lives around. Only an education bureaucrat could come up with a plan whereby a barrel of good apples would "unspoil" a rotten one!

What must be done away with is this absurd notion that every kid MUST graduate... regardless of who they are. It drives EVERYTHING in public education these days.. at the expense of safety, at the expense of accomplishment and at the expense of kids who want to learn and teachers who want to teach. No child left behind sounds good on the surface but the devil is in the details.

Graduation rates are the yardstick whereby every administration is judged.

 

Toughen the standards, don't kill the programs. Make eligibility based on previous months grades, not previous semesters. This will ensure that athletics isn't interfering with academics.

Do the same with non-athletic clubs, you can't join or attend if your grades aren't up to standards.

 

Good Points....

OK....this is getting better. I agree that the bottom dwellers should be able to fade into oblivion and that some folks are just going to be failures. And, I agree that there are usually success stories in those environments that should not be held back.....makes sense. (I also disagree with bailouts and mortgage help to people who don't know how to manage their finances!)

How do you FORCE kids to make their education a priority? How do you get them to see that, in most cases, it is a surer bet to earn a living with an education than with a bat or ball?

Does anybody know how many NC high schools in 2008 would have been classified as a school that would be affected by this Bill? None? 1 or 2? 10?
Just curious.....the benchmark on the Bill (50%) may be so low that it may not even apply.

 

Hey I Got an Idea

LET'S GOOGLE IT !!

GURU

 

You are getting closer....

I remember the day that my dad made me turn in my uniform my junior year of high school. I was a starter on the varsity basketball team and we had about 3 games left in the season, but my grades weren't where "he", not the school, thought that they should be. That was a valuable lesson as a 16 year old that has stuck with me to this day. If we got in trouble at school there were worse consequences at home...not sure if those practices still exist in our society today.

We want to blame teachers, administrators, the school board and whoever else, but the problem starts at home and needs to be corrected by the parents. If mom and dad would hold little Suzie to a higher standard instead of making excuses for her, everyone would be better off.

Again, there are factions that do not value education and never will, but the ones that do had better step up and vote in the right people for those board positions and legislature to make sure that the schools as well as the parents are held accountable.

Our high school is considered a "no nonsense" school and all of the student population is aware that there are severe consequences for messing up on anything. As a result, the school is consistently ranked in the top 10 in the state and just been named one of the top 100 in the nation. Our county has an "alternate" school for discipline problems and ne'er do wells and because of that has a high drop out rate. Bad for the problem kids...better learning environment for the good kids.