scoring question

how would you score a successful squeeze bunt attempt... does it go down as a sac and not an official AB? A sac generally means the batter gave themselves up however and is out but usually on a squeeze play there is normally a play at the plate and no attempt on the batter at first. Lots of variable scenarios.

 

Tough One !

FC ???

Guru

 

As I read this I'm thinking it is the definition of a sacrifice. Runner on third, fly ball to score the run is a sacrifice. Batter bunts, play at first, runner scores, sacrifice. Squeeze is simply the coach showing the batter he has confidence in her ability to get the job done. Any batter who who is asked to put a squeeze bunt down should feel proud.

 

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A sqeeze play is a sacrifice bunt. If successful it goes down as a SAC. If the play is made on the batter at first and the batter beats it out, obviously, it goes down as a single.

 

From the NFHS Rulebook, Scoring:

So with these rules,

1. If the bases were loaded, the play is at the plate, and the lead runner made it home safely, then it would be a hit.

2. If the Batter-runner is thrown out or would have been if not for an error, the a SAC.

3. If the batter-runner lays down a super bunt and she would have beaten it out (in the scorekeepers opinion) if the fielder would have thrown to 1st base, it is a hit.

Clear as mud

 

Happened Last Night...

I saw this at a college game last night...tie score, bottom of the 7th, runner on third, no outs. Batter lays down a bunt, runner scores, ball game. Scored as a SAC bunt.

 

Assuming no one is out, but the throw goes to some other base than 1st, then I would have thought it's a FC (because they didn't try for 1st) and SAC, unless you think the batter would have gotten to first if they had tried for her.

However, there's a problem with this logic. First, it throws off the proving, because if you score a SAC where there was not an OUT, the totals won't add up. Second, because there's no support for it in the list of conditions for a SAC (which is probably due to the first).

By the scoring rules, this is an FC. But, I don't think I'd argue too strongly with anyone giving the batter a hit. There are much worse situations scored as hits every day.

 

Help Me Here !!

In baseball, the squeeze play is a maneuver consisting of a sacrifice bunt with a runner on third base.[1] The batter bunts the ball, expecting to be thrown out at first base, but providing the runner on third base an opportunity to score. A bunt can be attempted with two outs but it is uncommon because there is a significant chance that the batter would be thrown out at first base, ending the inning.
In a safety squeeze, the runner at third does not take off until the batter makes contact bunting, waiting for more certainty that the ball will go to a location from which it will be difficult for the fielding team to make an out at home plate.
In a suicide squeeze, the runner takes off as soon as the pitcher begins to throw the pitch, before releasing the ball. If properly executed, a play at homeplate is extremely unlikely. However, if the batter fails to make contact with the pitch, the runner is likely to be put out at homeplate (hence, "suicide"). Therefore, the suicide squeeze usually requires a skilled bunter who can make contact consistently, even on poor pitches.
These plays are often used in the late innings of a close game in order to score a pad, winning or tying run.

 

I agree Guru...

in the situation that I mentioned it was more a suicide than a sacrifice, but the official scorer scored it a SAC bunt. The bunt was to the second baseman and she threw it home, but it was too late to get the runner from third. I was thinking FC, but maybe since it was the home team they didn't want it to count against her BA??? I have seen several questionable scoring decisions at the D1 level this year. How do you single to the pitcher????