LEADING STATS IN NC

Yes, I know why they are classified out and that is exactly what I am saying...more kids to choose from equals stronger teams. Also, I've noticed bigger schools usually take more pride in hiring their coaches and have more coaches than 1A/2A. Common sense will tell you week in and week out competition is stronger in 3A/4A which lowers their STATS.

 

Instead of the back and forth about 1a/2a vs 3a/4a, why not list some conferences that you think are tough from the 1st place team to the last place team. How good is the 4a conference some of these girls play in and against which teams are they putting up the homerun numbers or high strike out numbers.

IMHO, there are teams in every conference that the best players and teams will get inflated stats playing against.

 

MAYBE I SHOULD'VE SET AN EXAMPLE . . .

........... In a very tough 3A conference (EAST) probably not the best, but close........... (Has got 2 teams in it that has a rich tradition in winning State Titles and having great teams year in and year out)!

*All stats are out of 10 games played thus far this season . . . 5 of these games have been in conf. play !!!!!!!! All 3 players are on the same team!

Top Pitcher's Stat: IP (Innings Pitched)-65
K's-(Strikeouts)-108
ER-(Earn Runs)-5
ERA-(Earn Run Avg.)-0.077

Top 2 Leading Hitters on Team: (1st player)
#3 Hitter-Avg.-419
RBI'S-15
TB-(Total Bases)-17

(2nd player)
Leadoff Hitter-Avg.-412
TB-19
BB-(Base on Balls)-7
Runs-8

 

OK, you have a 3A pitcher that has 108 strikeouts which is very good against very good competition, BUT a 2A pitcher with 155 strikeouts against weaker competition is ahead of her in the STATS. My point is that if you look at STATS it looks like one pitcher is head and shoulders above the other when in reality that may not be true. Divide the stats by classification and things become much clearer. Not knocking any team, any pitcher or any hitter just make it fair for all the players. The way they now list the stats in most publications the 1A/2A players look like heros while the 3A/4A players are down on the list not giving a true picture to someone who wouldn't know better.

 

Also...............

You have to look at the innings pitched and number of batters they could have potentialy faced..............

This pitcher above in a 3A conf. has faced around 200 batters and more than that considering giving up hits allows more than 3 batters an inning.....................but 108 out of 230ish .................. You have a lot to consider when talking stats I guess...............

 

Okay Let's Further This !!

How about the nicer facilities @ 4A schools versus 1A & 2A schools??...HMMM you can't have your cake and eat it to !


Guru

 

I don't really know what you are talking about and sometimes I wonder if you do, but you seem to be very happy living in fantasy land. I have no reason to cry, but I will say that anybody who knows anything at all about softball sees right through those inflated stats. There are those who don't want to know the truth then there are those who know the truth deep down and don't want to admit it hoping others will believe it. Common sense will tell you switch your 4A pitcher and your 2A pitcher and see what happens to their stats. It is pretty simple. IMO the difference is like varsity vs. jv. You see all those 1A/2A batters hitting over .600...give me a break. Some of the best hitters around in 3A/4A are doing great to be hitting over .400 BECAUSE they PLAY BETTER COMPETITION.

 

What does that do to the ones in a split conference? Are those in the lower classification of a split conference better than the ones in a straight conference? LOL

There are too many variables and intangibles to make an absolute statement. There are powerhouse conferences and teams in all classifications. There are also weaker conferences and teams in all classifications.

 

I happen to agree with NeutralBlue. Here's why:

"GENERALLY SPEAKING," the competition is a bit harder in 4A, because of the size of the population that they draw from. They play against other schools of similar size. Therefore, "GENERALLY SPEAKING," the competition they play against is a bit better, too.

There are certainly exceptions to the rule, such as Ms. Leonard, but I would agree that based upon population alone, the 4A schools stand a higher probability of putting a higher quality team on the field. It's mere statistics!

To prove the point, turn the conversation around to football, for example. How many 1A or 2A schools would really want to have to play Independence, Butler, or New Bern year in and year out? Albemarle had a heckuva run a few years back in 1A, however, would they have been as successful if they would've had to play a 4A schedule? I doubt it.

I don't think NeutralBlue is trying to step on any toes, and has given ample room for exceptions to the rule for unique talent at some 1A & 2A schools. But statistics support his argument, based upon population samples.

Hard to argue against statistics.......