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Is it a high school coach's job to promote his players to college coaches?

Discussion in 'Baseball' started by OurPasttime713, Jun 10, 2009.

  1. EastOfRaleigh

    EastOfRaleigh Full Access Member

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    huh

    are you inferring that the HS coach is the cause of Mom having to get a second job?
     
  2. marlinfan1

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    ...wow! Thank God I've got the "self edit button" working.
    Marlin
     
  3. Braves

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    I believe what she stated was through the unsolicited negative comments by the kid's coach, the parent felt it was necessary to allow her son to play for a showcase team to overcome those negative comments and try to gain the attention of others. Hence the mother needed to get a second job to pay for this decision.

    Did the coach cause that? I suppose he did. Did she have to do this? No, but I applaud her. She loves her son and wasn't going to allow a person to steal her son's dream.

    Only the future will determine if she made the right decision...for her sake, I hope it does.
     
  4. OurPasttime713

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    I'm confused as to what exactly you mean.
     
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    No, I'm not "inferring" that at all (did you read the entire thread?). Because the coach isn't doing anything with reference to helping his kids get seen, the parents have gone the "showcase" route, which has caused a financial burden to the parents. THAT is a direct result of the coach specifically voicing that he will NOT do anything to help his kids get to the next level. They believe their kid has talent (and he does) so THAT is why they are going that route. THAT's what I said..not what I INFERRED.
     
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    Thanks Luis...
     
  7. Braves

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    Off Topic, but important

    The one thing that is never mentioned when scholarships are brought up is this. Receiving an athletic scholarship is just a part of the package. To have the Athletic Dept run interference through the application process, admittance, and most importantly, the financial aid package is worth every penny spent on helping your son play baseball at the next level.

    We were blessed to have someone like Coach Osborne at Wingate to help us tremendously in reducing our tuition obligations (non-athletic.) Any investment we have paid in our son's baseball have come back 10 fold in the cost of his college.

    For those of you who are new to the recruiting process, don't get caught up in the athletic $$ of the scholly, but to the total package that is afforded. That's why you hear some people say their son is on a 100% scholarship. The magic that goes on in the financial aid office can result from having a very active coach and a supporting administration
     
  8. itslife

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    I will be the first to a coach’s defense that they have enough to do and don’t get paid enough to worry about every player’s future but this goes back to the “Successful BB Program” Thread. You can be a great coach and that does not mean you are going to have a great program. It takes a great feeder program, a great High School program and a great promotion to the next level program. The thing is each one of those feeds off the other. If you don’t have a great feeder than the coach has nothing to work with. If you don’t have a great HS program than who wants to be part of the feeder. All three cause excitement within the others. Great example is South Caldwell. There is not a kid in that community that does not want to play baseball. They have all three segments covered! All that for this - If a Coach does not help promote his players, he will hurt the excitant around his entire program. In turn he may have a team here or there but will never have a consistently high performing program. Something else to remember is that every parent out there is not an expert like most of you. When I dropped my son off at the front step of the baseball field, I thought he would be taken care of from there. I simply did not know what needed to be done and was not told! Looking back now at the things I should have done but simply had no clue! Unless you have been through the process you do not understand until it’s too late.

    Also remember that some coaches do not communicate real well and you may simply not know all they are doing to get your son looked at.
     
  9. Coach F3

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    I believe it ABSOLUTELY is part of a HS coach's job to promote his players. Any player that has the talent, desire, work ethic, and grades to play at the next level deserves the help a HS coach can provide. That means picking up the phone and calling colleges about a player who may be flying below the radar as well as returning the many calls that come regarding a more well-known player.

    With that said, the coach has to honestly help the player go where his ability allows. A kid may be a D3 prospect, so I can't call Coach Fox regardless of how badly the player wants to go to UNC. Sometimes a player and parent think a coach is not helping their son because the ACC schools aren't calling. Part of this is helping educate all involved concerning the recruiting process.

    Lastly, the coach can't afford his reputation to be tarnished by recommending a player with questionable work ethic, character, or make-up. As has been said, the colleges have usually seen or heard about a talented kid and already made up their mind the player is talented enough for a follow-up call to the HS coach. They are asking about a side of the kid that only the coach who is with him every day knows, and I can't mislead a college coach about that or he will never call me again about a player down the road.
     
  10. buntandrun

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    Well said Kevin.I agree 100 %-I have fielded calls from college coaches about talented kids that have been seen by coaches and been very honest about their abilities and work ethic and I have also made calls to coaches about kids who maybe have not been seen but ones I feel can play.The main part is letting p[arents and players know where they can and can't play.The pecking order should be:1-GRADES,2-Ability-where do they fit best,3-Work ethic-there are lots of kids who say,"I want to play college baseball",but do nothing in the off-season to better themselves or play the right competition to get better,4-Teammate-are they prepared to sit the bench and work because when they get to the next level, they probably will not step into a starting role.They will have to work and improve.lastly-Do they always HUSTLE-run out every popup,run b/t the lines.etc.I will always be honest with college coaches because I want my phone to keep ringing and I want to know that when I do pick up that phone and call a coach-they KNOW that kid can play because I have been honest in the past -so far it has worked pretty good.
     

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