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Do head coaches need to be faculty members?

Discussion in 'Softball Forum' started by softballphreak, Jul 23, 2009.

  1. softballphreak

    softballphreak Full Access Member

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    An article in the NC Coaches Association states that faculty members are the best choices for head coaches and that it should be mandated that advertisements for faculty head coaches should be done annually until a faculty member replaces non-faculty coaches. It further states that faculty members would make better coaches and implies that they would make better coaches even if they had no coaching experience.

    I'm aware that some schools do give priority to faculty members applying for coaching positions and I know of at least one situation where it was a disaster.

    Anyone know of cases that supports (or doesn't support) the faculty-only thesis? Opinions?
     
  2. cheeze105

    cheeze105 Moderator Staff Member

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    two edged sword here.

    having a full time job and being a hs coach means that you have to rely on the AD or another teacher to know whats going on in the school with your kids. when i coach jv, i have meetings with various teachers to find out how my girls are doing in school, events that need be discussed, things like that.

    a coach who is in school knows all these things while at work.

    BUT, we have had some situations where the people coaching softball in our conference were teachers but didnt know ditty about the game and in one particular situation, stood at first base with the score book during the entire game (why even be there at all if you have your nose stuck in the book and not directing traffic around the bases?)

    after seven/eight years of coaching hs, i believe that you need to have a faculty member on the coaching staff, but i dont believe it needs to be mandated that the head coach is a faculty member. jmho
     
  3. bothsportsdad

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    the NCDE "requires" that all coaches be faculty members. The only exception is where there isn't a faculty member willing to take on the job... this provides some wiggle room on both sides of the fence from the administration if you follow my meaning.
     
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    I know a school who FINALLY had to go outside of faculty and hired a head coach. It was a blessing because the high school was losing good athletes to other sports because softball was so bad. Just being on staff does not qualify a person to be a head coach. I think the smart thing to do would be to open up the process to all, faculty and non-faculty, and let AD's pick the best coach for the job. But if all things are equal I'd go for the faculty member.
     
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    scal... you are absolutely correct but if you are not in the "club" you are out.

    I recall a statement from a county school super over an issue which occurred up this way several years ago. He was quoted in the paper as saying: "we intend to be here for our teachers as well as our students".

    I was stunned and struck by that comment and have never forgotten it.
     
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    Sounds

    Sounds like Congress!:REGamblMoney01HL2:
     
  7. treck

    treck Softball is my life

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    liability

    For liability purposes, most states require the "head coach" to be an employee of the school system. In GA we have a "community coach" rule whereas non-certified or non-employed persons in the community can coach after attending a certification clinic, but they can not be the "head coach".

    Most school board insurance policies require the people in charge of all events regarding school age kids to be an employee of the system. There has to be some avenue of recourse should a major issue occur. The only avenue of recourse for a school system is on its employees.

    Now obviously the "head coach" can be a figurehead and the assistant run the show. But for liability purposes, the "head coach" should be and in every state I know of has to be an employee of the system.

    Ty
     
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    Is that for softball only? I know a school where the head volleyball coach is not an employee of the system. He is in no way affiliated with the school (I work with him far from a school system) and neither is his wife. The school actually sought him out to be the coach when they had an opening. He is the only coach for the Varsity team and the JV coach is not affiliated with the school either. By the way, he has been very successful. He has won several conference championships, won the coach of the year award last season and has been featured/quoted in several magazines.
     
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    Are 6 coach's for Varsity too many?

    There is a Varsity team that carries only 12 players on its roster in the Raleigh Area they have 6 male coaches on the field during warm ups and also in the dugout. The Head Coach is the only teacher at the school. 2 of the Assistants have no daughters on the team. The other 3 assistant's all have daughters on the team and they play P,1B &3B.

    The same schools JV team has carries 15 players on its roster. But has only 1 coach, a female that also is a teacher at the school and she played softball 4 years at The University of North Carolina for Coach Papa.
     
  10. slapyasilly

    slapyasilly Softball dadda

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    In Oregon, the head coach does not and almost all cases locally in Portland I know of (not all), they are not part of the system. I thought it was odd, but here its the norm.
     

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