Stalling in a Showcase Game!

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I think Ty hit the nail on the head here. In Javelin's defense it is pretty bogus for a coach to stall in a showcase tournament when DD's could have been playing. Those last few minutes not playing were minutes lost for the girls. But, assuming EVERY player always plays to win and do their best, the consolation and reality of the showcase tournaments IS that despite losing a game and or tournament the players are their really to showcase their talent. Hope this helps JC.

 

...I just edited my entire post because if I had taken the time to read all of the posts I would see that everything I was posting had already been addressed.

I'll say this, stalling is a joke.
Not knowing the score is a joke.
Throw to your cut off man to keep the winning run off 2nd or hail mary a floater to home because you don't know the score?

Last question, if "powerhitter kid" is in a college game, rips a nice single, is subbed by a pinch runner, then re-enters the game..........late in the game "powerhitter kid" is in a bunt situation. Would the college coach burn her for PH or would she rather KNOW that this kid has experienced this situation before college and was able to lay down the bunt and move the teammate over?

If ya'll don't believe that a college coach does not look at a kids "smarts" of the game, well, I hate it for ya.

Sorry for the hijack

Marlin

 

Not knowing the score

If not knowing the score is a joke, why does every major college coach tell every team in America on every Saturday at halftime to FORGET THE SCORE AND PLAY LIKE IT IS NOTHING TO NOTHING? Why, because they need to play the same whether they are up or down without regard to the score, that's why.

Oh, I guess ALL of them are wrong and you are right or that only applies in football.

 

Have to disagree my daughter is an 18u catcher has been for 3 years, she better know the score, how many outs there are, the count and what the batter did her last at bat, and what pitch she called. She also better let everyone else on the field know what they are doing.

 

....because they need REAL coaching? As in what a paid college coach does for a living.

Look Treck, you can argue with me until the cows come home and never provide me ONE, JUST ONE example when not knowing where to throw a ball in a game is a positive.

I'm gonna politely trump your whole idea here with respect, mainly because its evident that you are animated and hell bent on helping the kids and I'm cool with that. BTW, thanks Pal. Now the haymaker.........................you say you don't keep score, its not good for the kids or the game right?
Do you or another coach/parent call pitches for your pitchers?
Do you keep up with the count and how it influences where when and how to throw the next pitch to benefit your pitcher? On an 0-2 count do you throw a fastball down the middle?

Be honest with us now, its OK, we all know the answer.

Wow, that was easy.


fishman

 

What??

Name one softball coach who tells their players to forget about the score. Do you not realize the importance of knowing what the score is? If you don't, there's nothing else I can say that will help.

 

FishBall is Classic!

 

Come in from the ledge...

Guest playing one weekend my DD was sitting on the bench and waiting her turn, when the head coach (at 1st base) started asking her questions. How many outs, what's the count, etc. She didn't pick it up but I did, that he was testing her to see if a kid riding the pine for some strange team still had her head in the game, and she did. Next inning she went in the game, and playing well that weekend never saw the bench again the rest of the tournament.

 

confusing

This thread has gone too long and is now too confused. As what often happens, people come in half way and start going off without following the conversation or intention from the beginning. And to my own fault, I assumed some of you knew what we meant when we were saying the phrase "know the score". It was not literal.

Knowing the situation in the game and knowing what to do is part of the game and is an important part of this and any game. I never said they should not know what to do. Let's get a clue here. To be a player you have to know what to do and what the situation is dictates that, DUH!!! But in a showcase game some of those things should be thrown out.

The phrase "knowing the score" as it pertains to this discussion in the very beginning of this thread was more about the meaning behind the phrase of "playing to win" vs "playing to show". Not the literal interpretation of "knowing the score".

You guys have gotten off the subject and gotten into the literal interpretation and not the implied.

And as stated, in a showcase, a coach should have a plan for showcasing his players, work that plan and do what is best in regard to the players without regard to the score since winning and losing showcases games is insignificant in the grand scheme of things. Doing things in a showcase game to secure the win (like stalling) are useless and meaningless. That is where the phrase in this thread came in about "not knowing the score". it meant that a coach should not care what the score is and worry more about showcasing his kids. If a coach changes his showcase plans because of the score, he is hurting the players and only helping himself. And in many cases he is just trying to draw attention to himself.

Now we have people commenting about their DD in tournament games, which has absolutly NOTHING to do with what this thread was about. Nobody ever said that in a tournament players on the bench and in the game should not know the score, the situation and everything there is about every moment in every game. This is a discussion about showcase strategy.

And the best part is, ya'll can do what you want and you don't get to hear the things I get to hear when college coaches come in after watching some of the stupid things that go on at these showcases. Hey I am just trying to relay information. If you don't want it, don't take it. I am just the messenger.

Keep winning those showcase games!

Ty

 

Maybe this will help: know what the score is (because it's important in playing the game) but disregard it otherwise.

Now I know what the players feel like when I don't make myself clear.