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Another example

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I hope nobody actually believed there could or would be in state quotas for college athletes in non revenue sports. I stated my wishes and quickly countered with the fact that coaches would never support this.

Also, I said this is complex and I'll give you examples:

- NC schools have a 18% quota on OOS students--they would prefer it to be much higher. Why?...more funds. Most of the quota is filled with athletes, so waiving OOS fees for them is frowned by the administration. But if the AD believes they are getting a "stud", they will ask to have the OOS fee waived. It's a juggling act predicated on academic grants, fafsa, and athletic talent. Some use the fee waiver as the "offer". One should never get caught up in this person received this amount--while this person received that. it's MONKEY NUMBER's!!!! The athletic dept can massage numbers from many different categories; obviously, the better one's grades, the less financial stress for them.

- In this example, "x" school administration is not a supporter of athletics in general (we all know of schools like this.) The college coach gets the direction, "No OSS waivers!" It makes it more difficult to recruit OSS athletes, but they can still be creative and obviously this is where the biggest % of their recruiting money is pooled.

Universities across the country make close to a billion $ in OOS fees. They are not looking to lose those monies. However, the other side of the spectrum of this subject is interesting, too. Some universities have lost numbers in enrollment. They say the number of qualified HS students to attend college in their state has dramatically lowered- so they are lobbying their legislature to allow them to drop all OOS tuition to all bordering states.

It's ALWAYS about the money.....and the decisons made in the athletic dept are no different.

I'll give you an example of a school that is a positive experience:

Wingate University President, Dr McGee, is a huge sports supporter- having played college baseball. He will help all his coaches, his AD and support them in any way that he can. If the AD comes to him and asks for assistance, instead of telling him no, he tries to find a way to help. This is not the normal relationship you'll find at all schools--most are hired for fundraising, while others have no interest in their athletic programs other than "what is it costing us?"

These are just a few examples of many decisions that address the initial topic discussion about OOS--as I said, it's a very complex subject.

By the way, the softball forum has the best discussions.

 

.....Nice post!

Fishpal

 

it's MONKEY NUMBER's!! Ha! Ha! aren't those the same numbers they use in Washington?


It's ALWAYS about the money... so right! Makes one wonder how some schools have so many OSS non revenue sport athletes


Wingate University President, Dr McGee, is a huge sports supporter- Whew! Braves, if you had called him a huge athletic supporter, you may have lost your box seats at the baseball games!

 

Very true... but at this time of year we can all make a wish list!

Seriously, I wouldn't necessarily be for hard quotas and I also fully understand that college coaches have to recruit to win. But, I would like there to be some pressure applied to state supported programs to recruit more "homegrown" talent. As a side note, I just looked at the "purple and gold" website... 6 players signed during the early signing period... 4 from California, 2 from Hawaii, 0 from NC... The baseball team there is 71% "homegrown" and they have had great success... and have one of the nicest facilities you will see anywhere in college ball. Can't say that about the softball field.