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Discussion in 'Softball Forum' started by scal, Nov 27, 2009.

  1. Stanlysoftball

    Stanlysoftball Full Access Member

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    84 players from NC playing for 10 D1 schools, avg of 8.4 per team.... This don't count all the D2 D3 private and JC/CC teams that would have girls from NC playing. SB is big in NC. Look at the one's that have gone out of NC. You can only wonder if C Leonard had stayed at home........ Oh well.
     
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    Chelsea

    Chelsea was recruited by most all of NC schools but wanted to attend Louisville from beginning. She is an awesome talent that always was a step ahead of most kids her age and knew what she wanted for her career.
    Never met a pitcher that studied her opponent and pitching as a science more than this young lady! And competitive, WOW! SPECIAL!!!!!!!!!:grin:
     
  3. prklandsoftballdad

    prklandsoftballdad Set my brother FREE!!

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    Looks to me like App. State needs to do some work too. And just remember that up until a year or so ago, Carolina's numbers were no where near that good. Helps when you sign about 8 carolina kids in two years.
     
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    Just for comparison sake

    Here are the numbers for our neighbors to the north. I included only D1 programs at state supported institutions. The only D1 program at a private institution is Liberty, somewhat analogous to Campbell.

    GMU 9/14
    JMU 14/22
    Hampton 2/17
    Longwood 13/17
    NSU 8/17
    Radford 14/16
    UVA 4/17
    VT 9/19

    Two of these programs went to the NCAA's last season, JMU and Radford.

    Of the 139 roster slots available 73 are VA kids (52%). In NC there were 84 NC kids occupying 181 roster slots (47%). Pretty similar. If you were to put Liberty and Campbell in the mix the percentages would be virtually identical as Coach Peterson has a good many NC kids and Coach Whetmore has a national recruiting strategy. Of course the other issue is who is actually on the field. The analysis of that could be done but it would take a while.

    Irony: The Virginia "Pitcher of the Year" in 2009 selected by the University SID's was from NC. If my hunch is right another 'Carolina Girl' will win that honor in 2010. :happy:
     
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  5. Stanlysoftball

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    As you watch the UNC recruiting now and yes because of the success that has come there. The staff is looking to recruit nationally as well as locally on the specialty level (pitchers, catchers, IF OF) so on. They just signed 5, 3 pitchers and 2 IF. 2 from NC 3 from outside NC. That's a 60/40 split, close to 47% mentioned. The last 2 yrs they signed OF C and IF. With a excellent pitcher from NC (ORR). I'm sure that as the NC State program begins to build it will do the same. The coach there came from the PAPA camp. Recruit nationally and locally and get the best you can get. Spaulding from CALIF and Orr from Charlotte. So if 40-50% of the players are coming from in-state, that's a good thing and says a lot for the talent pool in-state.
     
  6. Braves

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    This has been a very good discussion. Thanks to everyone that has contributed.:hurray:
     
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    Not picking on anyone here, but I think some of you need to take a good look around at some major out of state (DI) schools. When you look at their rosters they are not any different than the rosters you see at the DI level in state here (NC). Girls from all over the place. What one can assume from that is college coaches go out to recruit the best possible talent. Period. UNC, NCSU, ECU. FLORIDA, KENTUCKY, UCLA, WASHINGTON, pick one. I seriously doubt those coaches are worried about geographic location. They recruit the girls they think will fit, see what comes in, and if it's in state great. If not OK, but we got what we needed.

    I see the same thing with some elite TB teams too her in NC. They try and get some major talent when they go play national tournament with the best kids they can get, and try to win.

    So before you daddy ballers start pointing any fingers at what college is signing what kid and where they are from, might be a good idea to take a good long look in the mirrow when you start fielding your own team.
     
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    Best talent?

    My experience suggests that very coaches are really offering the best talent nor do they offer the best talent they see. Most offer the best talent that is brought to their attention, they feel they have a chance to sign and, perhaps most importantly, is associated with a TB organization they know and trust. Why does ECU have kids from the islands and Winthrop kids from the 'great white north'. It's the latter consideration. Sometimes its just easier (and safer) to stick with what you know and with what works.
     
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    College coaches jobs depend on the success they have on the field, at least most coaches. Like managers in business, they seek the most qualified person they can get to fill their openings and if they can find them locally, great, if not you are correct it does not matter where they need to go. Dukedog is right many times the player or players brought to their attention by e-mails, videos, word of mouth, etc. get the opportunity.
    Most teams in NC do a nice job getting their kids in front of coaches and that is key to the continued growth in NC kids being recruited.:bomb:
     
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    That's a great point. I had thought about that.....coaches and their recruiting pipeline. Maybe that's why they don't get as many kids from home, or the kids they recruit from home just decide to play somewhere else. Like in football. As hard as coaches try to recruit from home kids still go to Notre Dame and Tennessee.
     

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