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Is Bigger Better?

Discussion in 'Baseball' started by mincmi, Dec 1, 2007.

  1. Gman13'sdad

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    the season, college and high school, needs to get here quick!
     
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    Dat NCHSAA playoff system is wack!
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    Question: How many innings per week is any one pitcher allowed?

    Does it matter at all about how many pitches were thrown?

    If the playoff field were to expand, how might the pitching regulations come into the equation?

    Hey GMan13, "in softball, the pitchers....." just kidding brother.

    Merry Christmas

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    hoops

    Sounds like the NCAA Div 1 basketball tournament may very well expand to 96 teams. heard Coach K was in favor.
     
  6. frankfulton

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    You are not fighting the right fight

    My Friend in Baseball,

    I understand fully the concern of this post and I know the opinion of both sides. Those who want to reduce the athletic participation do not understand the real impact. They just see numbers on a spreed sheet that must be balanced so they can maintain their jobs. (If anyone wants to debate this thought please bring it to the forefront.) For those who want to prove how important it is to show the number of kids going on to college to play baseball do not understand the real impact either. (High school sports should not be about the number of scholarships produced)

    The fight is this: Athletic participation and all the auxillaries associated develops citizenship. It allows the intellectual to play with the simple, the rich with the poor, the gifted with the average. Athletics teaches individuals how to survive, co-exist, communicate, compete, and how to make the best out of what resources we have. Education is not about creating great test takers. Education is about creating great citizens.

    If an educational system takes away athletics, reduce games, cut activity budgets, then that educational system leaves the community with apathetic students, intellectual idiots, and a curriculum of lifeless lessons.

    It is always a standing joke that school is like prison. The students hate to be there, the teachers hate dealing with the discipline, and the administration cannot wait for the breaks to begin. I have never seen a student, teacher, or administrator hate being involved in an event that provides excitement, pride, achievement. AND, the more an individual plays or participates in extra-curriculars the more the student achieves in the classroom.

    I leave you with this one last thought; Let the bean keepers take away athletics and every extra-curricular activity. Let them reduce the budgets to support the existing programs until they fold up. Let them eliminate it all!!! Within a year, there will be more travel teams, club teams, private educational organizations stepping up to replace school activities than anyone could ever imagine. This is what the rest of the world is doing. Club sports rule the rest of the world. It will eventually come to all of the USA.

    Let the schools systems take it away. Then we will really see who can teach and keep apathetic individuals interested in attending academic prison.
     
  7. frankfulton

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    PS To my Response on Athletic Reduction

    There exist two simple answers to the budget cuts of today. One plan puts $750,000 into each baseball program for a five year period and $550,000 into each softball program for five years.

    Another answer eliminates millions of dollars worth of school expenses while maintaining every sport and extra-curricular activity with full funding. The teachers are excited about being at school, the students enjoy participating, and the educational budget is reduced.

    If any school division would like to review either of the two I will consider it a great honor to officially meet with those who have a sincere interest. But I will not offer the program to groups who have shortsightedness. These two programs work, there is history to support, and I have the time to share.

    Sorry to be mysterious, but I will not provide this information unless I have a formal audience who has real need and empathic ears. I have presented these two plans to individuals within the North Carolina School systems on several occasions and they could not grasp the vision.

    Again, I thank you for the opportunity to share.

    Frank Fulton
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  8. marlinfan1

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    .....very interesting! Budget cuts, well, lets face the facts....they're all over the place. HS, College, workplaces, etc.

    My question is this......you posted baseball gets a total budget of $750K over 5 years, and I have no idea, but it lends me to wonder this: If a baseball team charges say $3 for a home game, does all the home game money go to the baseball team?

    How about if the HS booster club spends $25k on lights for the baseball field....do they have to spend $25k on womens sports?, ie title 9?

    Just wondering.....oh before you go, if the HS booster club can raise money for all sports of a school, might it be possible that they have a determination of who will coach at the school?

    Please don't interpret my questions as a poke here or a bash there because I truly do not mean any negative slander.

    I'd like to understand just how the HS revenue from sports, clubs, etc. transfers from the lefthand to the righthand.

    Merry Christmas to all!

    Marlin:santa2:
     
  9. frankfulton

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    The Politics of High School Financing

    I appreciate your reply and I do not take any offense. It is time that the truth be made to those who do not know what is really going on in education and athletics.

    A school administration has only one obligation to the community; provide educational instruction mandated by the state. Everything else is at the whim of the local. Therefore, if athletics is important, a budget and support is developed and maintained. Booster clubs originally were developed to support the school and the program with extra trappings or extra costs if teams move further in the playoffs.

    As the community eyes became bigger and the demands for better fields, uniforms, equipment etc exceeded the educational/athletic budgets set by the administration so did the increase in booster involvement. Booster began to subsidize school budgets which would allow the administration to quietly cut the budget. As the boosters gained more financial power they also gained more say in to the management of the team and the selection of players.

    Today, you have many coaches who are held at ransom to the booster clubs and therefore cannot be mentors and coaches. They cannot teach, inspire, discipline, make decisions, etc. without the parents putting their two cents in. Or you have a coach manipulating the boosters to get all the extras he thinks he needs to have one up on the competition. All of a sudden the field, the facilities, the program is his!!! Or it is the boosters!!!

    Shady coaching or parents with hidden agendas who are left unattended eventually ruin the nature of the sport, the integrity of the team, and many many individuals self esteem.

    At the end of the day it is does not matter if the boy can play, what matters is can the boy sell stew tickets, and raise money for his $250.00 uniform package!!!! College coaches, scouts, and future employers do not care about all the trappings... They want to see the true character of a player in battle during his good and bad days. They also want to see if he is a team player or is he a showcase All-American.

    So what is the answer? What will solve the problem? Well I will give you my one little clue. go to my website: www.performproto.com and look under the title Diamond Squares Program. Thhis program was used by South Alabama 20 years or so ago. They raised all the money they needed to get their program off the ground by selling sponsorship squares of the baseball field. Just imagine that each program had a half a million in the bank drawing interest for the program each year. Then the coaches would not have to rely on boosters and kissing their _____. Adminstration would not have to threaten to cut the program because of funding, and players would have all they need to play the greatest game in the world for developing citizenship. This program would not only fund the varsity, but it would fund the JV, the 9th grade team, the 8th grade team, and still some.

    Thanks for allowing me to share these thoughts.

    Frank
     

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