What's the right call ?

I seen this happen twice this year to different calls.

(1) 3/24 ND vs SWR at UNC. Three umps calling. High School

Bases loaded no outs. Ball hit to shortstop runner from second runs
into shortstop, shortstop keeps playing throws to first 6-3. Run scored.
THIS IS THE CALL! Ump calls interference on runner at second out . Calls
batter out 6-3, let run count. Runner on second 2 outs 1 run scored.


(2) 4/1 Francis Marion vs Pfeiffer. Two umps calling. College

Bases loaded no outs. Ball hit to shortstop runner from second runs
into shortstop, shortstop throws home, ump in field calls interference.
THIS IS THE CALL! Ump calls interference on runner at second out.
one that scored back to third, one on first to second, batter to first.
Bases Loaded 1 out no runs scored.

WHAT IS THE RIGHT CALL?

 

...it appears REAL EASY to me.....I'd be a far worse Ump than I was a player!

Realtime.....every situation is subject to interpretation. maybe in these cases there was ..uhh, say a difference in how hard the ball was hit, etc. or maybe the batter was a lefthanded slapper....WHAT? Imagine that, a lefty slapper gets different calls than a righty?

To be continued......

Fishman

 

....continued, Fishmomma says both #1 and #2!
Fishdad says that shes right!
And even if she wasn't right, then I'd say she was!


Fish

....continued

 

....continued from the previous posts......momma says that if the SS had a "reasonable" out at home, then she'd thrown home, but given the situation, or judgement by the SS, throwing to first was the best option she had, ie no play at the plate without intereference or with interference.

My answer AGAIN...is she's right again!

Please. I'm killing me! lol

Fish

 

Fishman, you have finally figured the secret to life.....
ANYTHING mommafish says is right!!!!!!
Musta been talking to Guru, true words of wisdom.

 

I believe number 2 is right.

The interference is a dead ball call.

 

If interference by a runner is a deadball, then I believe that #2 makes the most sense.

But what if the play to SS was bang bang, hands down double play for sure, then a deadball actually could harm the defense. Just saying if in a bases loaded situation with 1 out and the bang bang double play ball is hit to SS, then whamo, interference. Instead of being out of the inning, now the defense faces a 2 out bases loaded gig again.
Fish

 

NCAA 12.4.13 Effect---The ball is dead. Each runner must return to the last base legally touched at the time of the interference. If the interference, in the umpire's judgment, is an obvious attempt to prevent a double play, the runner being played on also shall be call out.

I found this rule from a website USFA rule 2012:
Base runner cannot interfere with a defensive player making a play on the
ball. This results in the runner being called out and all base runners returning to previous bag before the interference occurred (unless forced to advance). The batter/runner is deemed safe at first base.

I knew the run in (1) shouldn't have scored. And the runner that was called for interference was out. I didn't know the batter is deemed safe on first. Or is she out with the force 6-3?

 

....so its possible for an umpires discretion to play a role in a "his judgement" decision and I was on the right track in general of throwing out a negative type scenario.

I can live with kinda right....nice!
Fishman

 

dead ball

as soon as runner on 2nd ran into SS, and interference is called,
DEAD Ball ....everything stops... just like a batter hit by pitch...
runner on 2nd out.
runner on 3rd, back to third, runner on first to 2nd, because she is forced by batter-runner who is now at 1st...

There is no "grey" area on interference...there is contact or there isn't any...

coach that gave up run in the high school game should have protested. He would have won....miss interpretation of the rules.