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Define “Verbally committed….”

Discussion in 'Softball Forum' started by ptp, Apr 10, 2010.

  1. marlinfan1

    marlinfan1 Full Access Member

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    .....NLIs are not legal binding agreements in NC. A minor cannot enter into a contract nor can their parents sign for him/her.

    Happened this year in girls basketball, Kelsey Evans signed with WCU and Kelly Harper, ...Harper took the NCSU job, Evans asked out of her NLI, WCU said no, Gus Gussler a prominent atty. presented his case and it was hands down in favor of the minor.

    The precedent is set.

    Verbals are hand shakes and NLIs are a handshake and hug.

    It is what it is.

    Fishman
     
  2. Braves

    Braves Watauga Pioneers #6

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    I ask this because I don't know what goes on in the softball community. Is this opinion one that is shared by the majority of softball parents and their DD's?
     
  3. Braves

    Braves Watauga Pioneers #6

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    There are 23 D1 schools in our state. In the last 7 years there have been over 1800 HS baseball players commit to those colleges. Out of the 1800+, there have been 4 de-commits and out of those 4 one didn't attend school. Apparently, there are many that share your sentiments.
     
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    answer

    I will answer your??? about my opinion. NO, I don't think this is. At least not in our house. But times have changed so much. People will take someone to court or sue for smiling in the elevator and everyone on this board knows that is the truth.
    Just read on this board. We read so many things on here where people get very defensive about. Quick to say this or that and some one has a different opinion about it. Again I will say that we in my family believe in the hand shake rule. But there are those out there that has to have EVERYTHING in writing................
     
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  5. Braves

    Braves Watauga Pioneers #6

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    I understand what you are saying. It's a shame because it implies the coaches are dishonest with their offers. Although there is no history of that, I guess some people in today's society trust no one. It's a shame because parents are trusting the coaches with their DD's well being for the next 4 years. If I had little or no trust or confidence in the coach, I wouldn't let her attend that school in the first place.

    Opinions are posted in nearly every reply. If people were banned for stating an opinion, there would be no one here. If anyone cares about why a particular poster is no longer here, any moderator would be happy to discuss it with you off the forum.
     
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    Let me ask about the Verbal Commitment" with a slightly different spin. I see more and more are making "commitments" at earlier grades. In the opinion of the viewers, is a "verbal commitment" between the player and the coach or the player and the school?

    If you make a commitment to a coach in the 10th grade and the coach moves on, get fired or whatever, do you still feel that the "verbal commitment" to be intact? Did the coach break the commitment by leaving the school? Did the school break the commitment by losing the coach? Or does none of this matter because you committed to the school?
     
  7. Braves

    Braves Watauga Pioneers #6

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    Great question cmmguy.

    The coach recruited you because they felt that you would help their program. The new coach may not share that same feeling. In many cases they want to bring in their own recruits.

    If one found themselves in this situation, they can discuss with the new coach their plans for your dd. It may not have changed, but you certainly have options. The one's that find this to be tough are the one's that are already with the program and the new coach wants to bring in their own players. In my opinion, I wish the NCAA would take a firm stance in this case. Players committed to the school, the school should be equally committed. However, the players are punished by transfer rules and yearly contracts---while the coaches can do whatever they want. The balance of fairness is skewed heavily against the player.

    You can do all your homework during the recruiting process and still get a shock by a coaches decision to leave school for another one or was fired. But it is an area in the process to consider the possibilities. To give you an example: If a coach's program has been in a downward spiral for 3 years, but they say, 'Your DD is the one that can help turn this around. We are upgrading our talent and we want to make your dd the best offer of any player that has attended this program. We feel she is going to lead us to a championship!"---pretty good stuff, huh? Are you ready to commit?....you find out after your freshman season that your coach has been fired.
     

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