State Games Eastern Seniors

The flip side of the coin you are asking for Diamond Lady is that no matter what, in re: to any topic of conversation on this board, we should only talk about it in terms of rainbows and lollipops.

I don't think so.

This is by no means a knock at Pops, who works durned hard. It is a realistic presentation of what influences some girls to choose NOT to play.

Perhaps we should look at the list of why SOME choose not to play as food for thought.

For instance, I can tell you for a fact that one of the selected coaches this year has some of the poorest behavior of a coach on ANY ballfield that I have ever seen (screaming, yelling, jumping up and down, encouraging his girls to cuss and show poor sportsmanship). So much so that that towns newpaper reporter even made reference to the continual complaints his paper receives re: this team and their behavior IN THE PAPER.

If my daughter were in that region would I allow her to play for that person? Heck no. It goes against the grain of everything we have ever taught her about behavior on and off the field.

Pops knows that there is ups and downs to near everything. Give him the credit he is due. He is facillating a super large event and things may fall through the cracks...and people's expression of reasons WHY players may not sign up, may also provide him answers that he is pondering.

This board and any opinions on it is not going to make or break the State Games. However, the reasons listed above if they spread...COULD.

And when people decided to shoot straight, respect that.

The world is not just white...it is BLACK and white.

And what you implied above is called...censorship.

 

Wow. My daughter played last year as a senior and had fun because it was only one day. No practices were involved just show up, get a uniform and play. They played in a great facility on a beautiful day. Their coach was a great, knew the game and supportive but all he did was make out the lineup and let them play. Maybe we should stop trying to change the world and let them play! If you go in with fun on your mind you actually make obtain it. Good luck to all the players that decided to go out for this nice event.

 

AMEN, AMEN, AMEN!!!! Anytime this subject comes up for discussion the thread ends up being closed. We are not supposed to tell anyone. I wish someone would have told me before I shelled out for gas, food, and hotel.

 

I'm aware that some of the complaints about the State Games are based on some DD who were not selected.

This is understandable to some degree. But it will always be there when there are tryouts. Not everyone makes the cut. But not making the cut does not mean necessarily that the player was not good. There are a limited number of positions. A player may be a really fast runner and in the coaches' minds they prefer speed to power, for example. There are a number of reasons why one player makes it and another doesn't. Not making a team is NOT a negative judgment of a player!!!!

There seems to be instances of where parents or players don't like the coach. That's also understandable. But the State Games shouldn't be negatively judged as a whole by the feelings toward a few.

Pop Rivers will listen. I know this personally. He is NOT unaware! I believe we are very fortunate to have his leadership. Anyone who has ever tried to coach a team can understand what he has to deal with handling multiple teams.

The State Games are a good thing!! It's really frustrating that some want to tarnish something that can be so good for the kids and the sport.

If you are determined that the Games are bad and/or you can't get a satisfactory resolution to your issues why not just leave it alone and let those who do see the Games as good enjoy their kids ad their sport?

If you really do want to help, you can help! If you really don't care to make things better for the kids, that is obvious as well! And that's the bottom line!

Would you rather be a helper or a hater? That's your freedom!

 

I have no doubt that there are people who don't like me or what I do because there will always be people who don't like others that disagree with their opinion or that speak their mind. I don't care because those that mind don't matter and those that matter don't mind. So what you are saying is that as long as I agree with you it is ok to express my opinion? I don't expect anyone to not go play in the state games because of something I say, BUT I think people have a right to know others experiences (the good and the bad) then they can make the decision for themselves. I don't know about anyone else but I make my own decisions, I don't make decisions based on others experiences but I do like to know others experiences.

 

Wow, some like to play dirty eh?

LOL beginning to see why you made this comment Coach.

Phreak, when someone posts only 8 showed up for tryouts and the thread ventures into why's, the fact that someone presents a reason of why's does not mean a) the thread has turned to negativity, b) that the one who ventures to pose an answer to why's has a child that did not make the cut previously is and is c) thereby trying to turn something negative.

Let me reiterate again: Pop works his butt off on this, no one will deny this. State games are a great idea. No one denies this. Just like any venture there can be good and bad, no one denies this.

Because someone like myself is honest enough to list the potential why's that they have heard spoken of does not a) mean they dwell in negativity or b) as Diamond would like to say would find the water too cool and the sun too hot.

If I were to use the reasoning behind Diamond Lady and your own vehement defense of the state games and faulty "someone wanting to tarnish the State Games logic" then I would have to jump to the conclusion that you are in favor of it because your own dd's are part of it, and therefore you feel the need to defend it.

But, see, I don't ASSUME as you know what that does.

A) I have no issue. The topic wandered into the why's, and I presented you with potential answers to the whys.

B) As for your ASSUMPTION, crass at that, that I "don't care to make things better for the kids": 1) show some class; and, 2) don't ever presume to know that you know anyone hidden behind the moniker's on this screen. Because you would be HUGELY embarrassed to know a) how much of my time I DONATE to this sport because of all the good it does the young ladies in our state and b) how much time IN GENERAL I donate to activities that are beneficial to kids.

You asked if I wanted to be a helper or hater...

Well, based on the hundreds of hours a year I volunteer...I would say I am a helper.

Because I am daring enough to voice some reasons as to why maybe only 8 showed....says I am a carer.

As for hater? Apparently based on your rather venomous posting you have that wrapped up. You took a summary of UNBIASED remarks I have had made to me, that I presented, and turned it into a fairly personal attack.

And before taking jabs at someone that DOES care and was willing to say what others were afraid to (see why now, based on all the love I have gotten)...keep in mind, before you blast someone else for saying anything negative about something...there is such at thing as view old posts on here.

Neither individual that blasted me for the audacity of being honest is squeaky clean sunshine and lollipops themselves.

State Games is a great program....but it is what it is...imperfect like all else. Live with it

 

Actually, yes I would...until such a time as an AUTHORITY verified that statement, published it and put a stamp on it.

 

I certainly meant nothing towards you personally.

We seem to be in agreement that the State Games are good but not for everyone.

I'm biting my tongue so as to not respond in kind to your insults.

I support the State Games. I, also, do not believe in whitewashing any problems. But posting on blogs with all the negatives that some posters do will not solve anything. What I have recommended is that they address their concerns to the people who can help solve them.

 

I see that you are done with this thread but just so you will know, I am not someone whose kid didn't get picked for the team. If my kid wasn't on the team I wouldn't know about the state games. As a matter of fact my kid played every inning of every game of the state games so I am not venting because of that. I am also fortunate that my kid has signed with the college of her choice. You say that your kid is talented and enjoyed the state games and that is great, I'm glad for her and you. My kid is also talented and did not enjoy the state games so I have just as much right to give my opinion as you do and no it is not ridiculous. You should not suggest that everyone that makes a complaint is doing so out of "sour grapes" because that is simply not true. You told your experience and I am not doubting it a bit so please don't suggest that just because my experience was different than yours that I am not telling the truth. I just want people to know my experience just like you want people to know yours. Truthfully I don't know that it doesn't effect over 50% of the softball community because I have experienced the same thing that justsoftball stated about people agreeing with me but for some reason were afraid to say anything.

 

Haha, you know alot more about me than I do about you. That said, saying what you feel may not be the best thing but that is just the way I have always done it and at least no one has to wonder what I really think. I try to respect others opinions even though I may not agree with them and I would just like to be treated the same. So if you know my daughter you know it is not sour grapes because she didn't play. I think some regions had good experiences and others had bad.