UNC

Has anybody else noticed the number of kids that UNC is recruiting. Out of the 2010, 2011, and 2012 classes alone they have 42 kids, and thats not to mention there is 4 classes at school every year and this is just 3 classes worth of players. And the 2009 class had around 15 kids as well. Unless they have 5 to 10 players sign pro each year, then starting next year there will be quite a few players cut.

 

I would guess that the #1 factor that UNC has to worry about is how many of their recruits might go pro right out of high school. The Heels have 15 signed from the 2011 class, and they probadly will lose a few of those. They've been hit hard before by the draft. Also, UNC will probadly lose some that choose to transfer elsewhere to get more playing time. Some of the Heels bench players could easily start elsewhere. Some may struggle with academics their first year. Just alot of things you have to factor in while recruiting.

 

This issue is a heck of a lot broader than any individual program. Here's why:

If a program expects to have a decent shot at playing deeply into the NCAA playoffs each year, they have to recruit players that are good enough to be draftable out of high school. Meanwhile, players are lost from the existing roster every year from a variety of sources: the draft, academics, injury, inability to contribute to name a few.

As a result, every coaching staff at a program of this caliber does their best to anticipate who will come, who will go, and who will stay. However, when the predilection of 18-21 year-olds combine with a number of uncontrollable factors, trying to maintain and live within the NCAA's prescribed 35-man roster can be a monumental challenge.

No Division I coaching staff that I know, UNC's included, wants to place itself in a position where it's forced to pare the roster because more come or stay than anticipated. At the same time, if they come up appreciably short because more don't come or don't stay, that's negative for the program, as well.

It's an unavoidable tightrope; one that's easy to come up on either side of.

 

I think all the top d1 schools bring in alot of kids, for many reasons
the following is from the LSU/Baseball web-site when talking about the 2010 roster:

The LSU veterans are complemented by a talented class of 19 newcomers, including eight players that were selected in the 2010 Major League Draft. LSU's incoming class was voted No. 1 in the nation in the annual Collegiate Baseball magazine recruiting survey.

 

commit class rankings

maybe this is one time you DON'T want to be #1!

 

Prepster nailed it!

Putting aside the problems with transfers, injuries, grades and homesickness, I like to use Florida State as the example. Florida State is/was considered one of the premiere baseball schools in the country. However, Coach Martin's program got hurt going after the super players that it takes to win the college world series. He lost too many players each year to draft (and these are just the recruits; nevermind the current players they lost to the draft.) Realistically, he had no idea what type team he would have the following year until they arrived on campus.

He decided to take a different approach and go after kids with a higher degree of attending school....and the program slipped. It appears they are back to aggressively going after the best talented players again.

It's a very difficult juggling act for all the coaches at a powerhouse school, but what can they do---risk a chance of "under-recruiting?" The unique part about attending a school like UNC is different than most. First, Coach Fox gives everyone an opportunity to succeed. But because of competition that window of opportunity is smaller than at some other schools. You make your mark when you get your opportunity---or you don't. That's the way it is at every successful national contender (for that matter, I'd say most D1 programs are like that.)

The other part of attending a school like UNC that is unique. Even the players that don't start can get drafted.

 

UNC 2011 Class - as per a recruiting service

Player Pos Ht Wt B-T High School Hometown State Commitment
Josh Ake SS 5-11 175 R-R Hunterdon Central Regional Flemington NJ North Carolina
Grayson Atwood 3B 6-4 205 R-R Mt. Pleasant Mt. Pleasant NC North Carolina
Bryan Brickhouse RHP 6-2 190 R-R The Woodlands The Woodlands TX North Carolina
George Carter 1B 6-3 200 L-L Northern Guilford Summerfield NC North Carolina
Adam Griffin RHP 6-1 190 R-R Forsyth Country Day Clemmons NC North Carolina
Peter Hendel OF 6-1 185 S-L Cuthbertson H.S. Waxhaw NC North Carolina
Trevor Kelley RHP 6-2 180 R-R Ashley Wilmington NC North Carolina
Zac LaNeve MIF 6-1 180 R-R Pine-Richland Gibsonia PA North Carolina
Dillon Maples RHP 6-3 197 R-R Pinecrest West End NC North Carolina
Shell McCain MIF 5-9 165 R-R Nation Ford Fort Mill SC North Carolina
Chris McCue RHP 6-0 155 R-R Ardrey Kell Charlotte NC North Carolina
Mason McCullough RHP 6-3 218 R-R Crest Shelby NC North Carolina
Bradley Morton OF 6-2 165 R-R Mt. Tabor Winston Salem NC North Carolina
Benton Moss RHP 6-2 177 R-R Rocky Mount Enfield NC North Carolina
Chris O'Brien LHP 6-0 185 L-L Malvern Prep Drexel Hill PA North Carolina
Luis Paula SS 5-8 138 S-R Northeast Guilford Mcleansville NC North Carolina
Mike Zolk 2B 5-10 180 L-R Neumann Goretti Philadelphia PA North Carolina

 

KNOWN State of NC Commitments - per a National Scouting Service

Player Pos Ht Wt B-T High School Hometown State Commitment
John Allen LHP 6-4 180 L-L Kerr-Vance Creedmoor NC East Carolina
Grayson Atwood 3B 6-4 205 R-R Mt. Pleasant Mt. Pleasant NC North Carolina
Brett Austin C 6-0 192 S-R Providence Matthews NC North Carolina State
Jacob Barber C 5-11 175 R-R Davie Mocksville NC Liberty
Brandon Burris MIF 5-9 155 R-R Mt. Pleasant Concord NC Appalachian State
Cameron Capell OF 5-11 175 L-R Kerr-Vance Academy Louisburg NC South Carolina
George Carter 1B 6-3 200 L-L Northern Guilford Summerfield NC North Carolina
Lucas Cash RHP 6-2 175 R-R Polk County Columbus NC VMI
Josh Clark C 6-0 185 R-R West Forsyth Clemmons NC Wingate
Seth Constable OF 5-10 185 R-R Forsyth Country Day Lewisville NC South Carolina
Jason Creasy RHP 6-4 180 R-R Clayton Clayton NC North Carolina State
Brandon Culbreth RHP 6-3 200 R-R Forsyth Country Day Winston-Salem NC North Carolina State
Rookie Davis RHP 6-4 235 R-R Dixon Sneads Ferry NC East Carolina
Dylan Dickens RHP 5-11 200 R-R Person Hurdle Mills NC East Carolina
Luke Dunlap OF 5-11 170 R-R East Forsyth Walnut Cove NC UNC-Wilmington
Michael Elefante C 6-0 180 R-R Chapel Hill Chapel Hill NC Elon
Brad Elwood OF 5-10 160 L-R Piedmont Indian Trail NC UNC-Charlotte
Jake Fincher MIF 5-10 160 R-R Butler Matthews NC North Carolina State
Dillon Frye RHP 6-1 165 R-R Lee County Sanford NC Western Carolina
Adam Griffin RHP 6-1 190 R-R Forsyth Country Day Clemmons NC North Carolina
Ryan Gupton RHP 6-3 175 R-R DH Conley Winterville NC East Carolina
Peter Hendel OF 6-1 185 S-L Cuthbertson H.S. Waxhaw NC North Carolina
Carson Herndon SS 6-4 188 R-R Davie County Salisbury NC Liberty
Mikal Hill MIF 5-11 180 S-R Mallard Creek Charlotte NC South Carolina
Jacob Hoyle 1B 6-3 230 L-L St Stephens Hickory NC Western Carolina
Demetrus Ingram RHP 5-8 180 R-R West Stanly Oakboro NC North Carolina State
Alex Jensen MIF 6-2 185 R-R Charlotte Catholic Charlotte NC Army
Logan Jernigan RHP 6-3 190 R-R South Johnston Four Oaks NC North Carolina State
Trevor Kelley RHP 6-2 180 R-R Ashley Wilmington NC North Carolina
Brett Lang C 6-3 195 R-R Ardrey Kell Charlotte NC UNC-Charlotte
Alex Leach 1B 6-4 185 L-L Ardrey Kell Charlotte NC Appalachian State
Paul Leonard LHP 6-2 210 L-L North Mecklenburg Davidson NC North Carolina at Pembroke
Justin Manning C 6-0 180 L-R Holly Springs Apex NC UNC-Wilmington
Dillon Maples RHP 6-3 197 R-R Pinecrest West End NC North Carolina
Benigno Marrero OF 5-10 155 R-R Western Guilford Scholl Greensboro NC UNC-Greensboro
Ryan Mayhew RHP 6-0 170 R-R West Forsyth Winston-Salem NC UNC-Wilmington
Chris McCue RHP 6-0 155 R-R Ardrey Kell Charlotte NC North Carolina
Mason McCullough RHP 6-3 218 R-R Crest Shelby NC North Carolina
Nicholas McGee C 6-2 175 R-R West Mecklenburg Charlotte NC North Carolina at Pembroke
Alex Morales OF 5-8 150 L-R Union Matthews NC Pitt CC
Ben Morris OF 6-1 185 R-R R-S Central Rutherfordton NC Newberry
Preston Morrison RHP 6-2 150 R-R Cuthbertson Waxhaw NC TCU
Bradley Morton OF 6-2 165 R-R Mt. Tabor Winston Salem NC North Carolina
Benton Moss RHP 6-2 177 R-R Rocky Mount Enfield NC North Carolina
Alex Newman OF 5-10 150 R-R Davie County Mocksville NC Gardner-Webb
Jamie Nunn RHP 6-1 165 R-R Mt. Tabor Charlotte NC Appalachian State
Luis Paula SS 5-8 138 S-R Northeast Guilford Mcleansville NC North Carolina
Tyler Poole RHP 6-6 205 R-R Hickory Hickory NC Coastal Carolina
Tyler Powell RHP 6-5 225 R-R Myers Park Charlotte NC Western Carolina
Jordan Ramsey RHP 6-4 182 L-R North Davidson Lexington NC UNC-Wilmington
Logan Ratledge MIF 5-11 190 R-R Ardrey Kell Charlotte NC North Carolina State
Carlos Rodon LHP 6-2 211 L-L Holly Springs Holly Springs NC North Carolina State
Bailey Rush MIF 5-11 170 L-R Pinecrest West End NC The Citadel
Matt Solter RHP 6-3 170 R-R New Bern New Bern NC Furman
Jeffrey Springs LHP 6-3 170 L-L South Point Belmont NC Appalachian State
Brett Thompson OF 6-0 165 R-R Marvin Ridge Waxhaw NC Lafayette
Joshua Tobias MIF 5-9 194 S-R Southeast Guilford Greensboro NC Florida

 

analysis of recruiting class..the real story

Thanks for the current info on who's committed where. It might be difficult to do, but a real analysis would include an attrition study. Take the 2009 class. Using a similar list of those commitments, how many actually were on the roster of their college at the end of the 2010 season? Names not necessary nor instructive; just the numbers and percentages.
My guess would be 65% survival rate.
I would do but I do not have access to the data.

Thanx

 

Good luck with that one. But if I gave an uneducated guess, I would say between 60-70% from class to class...and even higher at the D2 level (many have JV teams at D2.) Schools don't keep that kind of record. It would take an individual that follows a particular school.