Round 1 - Cherryville vs Pineville

umps and cherryville

good comeback lugi. no it is not always the umps. cherryville always has an excellent team and coach that will beat you most of the time. when you are up against the best that just makes it that more maddening to have to put up with the crap down there. and it happens a lot.

 

Okay... I have done my tenure in American Legion baseball as well and being out is pretty relaxing. There are things I read between the lines in this thread. First of all, the thread read that a MLB player parent blew a call. If he blew it he blew it, but there's no way he's from Cherryville.

By no means has Cherryville wore the white hats over my last years of Legion, for that matter neither did my team at Post 29. Understand though winning builds winning. Cherryvilles team this year is loaded with college and soon to be college players and BDR with talent is scarry.

Finally do I think BDR works umpires? yes. Do I think he gets calls others do not? Yes. Do I think there is a legit fear umpires have of him so they won't toss him or his players? Yes. Does it sound like Pineville got caught up in the mind game and lose the actual game? Yes.

 

DownSouth the information that umpires are from Cherryville.I got this info before game 2 from the Cherryville radio network .As far game 1 go.The Cherryville broadcaster who were in the press box before the start of game 2.Told us that in game 1 the umpires had a bad strikeout zone and that why the Cherryville pitcher had 11 strikeout.I'm sure that Cherryville is a very good team.They have a very good coaches .With that said I wish the umpires would have not give Cherryville the calls .And instead be even to both teams

 

I'm reading this thread and just giggling...I'm on vacation 900 miles away and heard all the fallout way up here from the great bat tossing incident. For the record, the three umpires who shall remain nameless are not from Cherryville...not one of them...none of them. I also have it on good word that the famous "homerun" was clearly foul. Does BDR try to intimidate guys? Sure does. Do umpires have to be aware of that? sure do.

My question is: was this a best of 5 series or a best of 1? because all the stuff I read said this was the third game. That means there were two previous games and one of those games probably was played in Pineville. Who's fault was it in Pineville? I bet all the umpires from Cherryville were working the game in Pineville too.

A series like this is why I don't care if I work legion or not....it's not worth the money for all the crap you have to deal with. You spend the whole game walking on eggshells and putting out fires...say nothing about trying to umpire. I wasn't there so I can't speak to what happened with the umpires.

 

I'm staying by the fact of what the Cherryville broadcaster told me in the press box before the start of game 2 that the umpires for game 2 that all 3 are from Cherryville .I don't know who were the umpires for game 1 and game 3 I don't know if this were the same umpires.Game 1 the issue was that umpires had a wide strikeout zone .That is why the Cherryville pitcher had 11 strikeout.Game 2 that Pineville hosted .There was couple of bad calls that went against Pineville.Now even though you would think that Pineville would have home field advantage that was not the case.As they might have been maybe 10 Pineville fans.While they was close to 100 Cherryville fans if not more then that

 

I would probably go with A Non E Mous and his assessment that none of the umpires were from Cherryville over what Milton and Richard said. The strike zone may have been wide, but if he had 11 strikeouts it's safe to say they played at lease 4 innings, so ADJUST over the course of the game. Don't let the umpires beat you. As for BDR getting calls, yes it happens. It happens at all levels of sports for the coaches/teams that are the elite in their particular sport. Jordan got them in the NBA, Coach K and Roy Williams get them in the NCAA, Tom Knotts probably got them at Independance High in football, and BDR is going to get them in AL and HS baseball. It may not be fair but you have to live with it. Pineville could have avoided playing Cherryville in the first round. All they would have had to do was finish 2 games under .500 in the regular season.

 

Good to hear from you again DownSouth, hope alls been going well with you. And btw, I agree with everything you just stated. Having no knowledge of what happened in this series whatsoever, I'll just say that BDR is one of THE BEST coaches in the area period, his track record speaks for itself, and with his knowledge of how he handles a game and the umpires, I am quite positive that Pineville had an uphill battle in this series.

Rowan County are the giants in my area, and from what I am reading, thats just the way it goes when you play a perennial champion. Whenever teams go play Rowan County, you better bring your A game, then some, and most of the time that aint enough.

Bad calls are simply a part of the game, and players AND coaches must overcome that. Good folk down at Pineville, the sun will still come up tomorrow.

 

I've worked enough games with BDR to understand how he works. He's all about gamesmanship and he has a field day with mental midgets whether they be umpires or opposing teams. I don't have any problems with either team. I just show up and work and handle what comes down the pike.

Some of the people that come on here and cry and suck their thumb about the umpires fail to realize that some of these guys are the same guys you cry about in high school. You get what you pay for. Some of you wouldn't be happy if the crew from the MLB World Series showed up to work your series because you're all about passing the buck and not taking responsibility. I had to laugh when I read the post about Cherryville having 11 K's because the zone was "too wide". I don't know how many were looking but I bet it wasn't too hard to figure out therefore it wouldn't be too hard to change your approach. All the coaches that want college strikezones don't have the pitching to allow for that. Did the pitcher from Pineville adapt to the "wide zone" or did he continue to throw it down the middle?

I know that blaming the umpires is "part of the game" but I just have to sit back and laugh at the grasping of straws and excuse making that goes along with it. I love what I do. I take pride in my work. I handle every game situation by situation and most of all I probably make some mistakes. It happens. To say an umpire goes into a game and "rigs" it is a stretch.

 

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I knew Braves would understand...he hit the nail on the head. At the risk of opening a can of worms, I can go work an SCBL game that is played with wood bat and make $15 more for better ball and shorter games. I can also go work 14 showcase games in a weekend and go the whole weekend without hearing a peep. The choice is easy....and that's why you get what you get.