Round 1 - Cherryville vs Pineville

Well it's probably better for both of us than....if your team reflects your attitude you may run into the same problem Pineville ran into running out of players...good luck to you for the remainder of your season and thank you for the chuckle.

 

I will make you two promises, we will not run out of players and we will not act like Pineville, our Legion Post and myself will not allow it. I can go back through your post and find how you have done nothing but praise showcase and in some instances just like this, take stabs at Legion.That is where you belong in showcase threads, stay off the legion board. I don't knock showcase and Braves knows that. I do exactly what TBR is designed for promote players.

 

Well kudos to you for running a top notch program. Braves doesn't knock anything but he understands the difference between the two and he doesn't pretend they are something they are not. I've worked both...I have a point of reference. Have you coached both? Participated in both? Are you simply biased towards legion (which is fine...I don't really care) and your feelings got hurt or do you have a comparison you would like to make.

The idea of legion is great and I think associating America's past-time with our military is fantastic. Players and coaches standing on the foul lines and reciting a Legion Code is hypocritical. When the kid(s) threw the bats on the field down in Cherryville did the players keep their tempers? When the players all laugh and cut up during the national anthem is that showing respect for the people they are representing? You may not do that in your program and kudos to you for that. If that is the case, I wish more people ran their legion programs like you. I can honestly say from my experience with NC legion that you would be the exception. The coaches conduct and players conduct in some instances is embarrassing. Is the umpiring the greatest? Probaby not sometimes but it sure doesn't warrant the abuse that is shelled out through the course of the season. I'm simply saying it's not worth the money and until something is done about the general disrespect that goes on you won't ever have to worry about seeing me on a Legion field.

If I pissed you off Tools I'm sorry. If you think I have no business being here...that's fine too. Would I ask that you kindly consider some of the points I made here...please do. I think that some who read what I said here would agree with me.

 

[ Is the umpiring the greatest? Probaby not sometimes but it sure doesn't warrant the abuse that is shelled out through the course of the season. I'm simply saying it's not worth the money and until something is done about the general disrespect that goes on you won't ever have to worry about seeing me on a Legion field.

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Are you talking about the players and coaches in general or are you throwing the fans into your discussion?

 

A Non E Mous, in all fairness, what you just described unfortunately is not just relegated to legion baseball. Unfortunately we see this type behavior at all levels and ages,,, especially at the HS level, but sadly we see it all the way down to little league (in LL it mostly comes from the daddycoaches who have their dreams crushed when little johnny strikes out).

Legion baseball certainly isn't perfect, but truth is, THERE ARE folk out there like Tools trying to run good clean programs where their players act like somebody.

And btw, since folk are throwing Pineville under the bus, I dont know what happened becaues I wasnt there,,, but in recent years I have nothing but respect for the players and coaches that ran that program. Everbody has a bad day sometimes, when they wish they could have a do-over. Just saying.

 

I understand what you are saying TJ...my only point was that Legion is the only organized baseball that puts the players and coaches on the spot if you will. I think it's fantastic that Tools runs a great program...my point is that from my experience he is one of a few. It is what it is. Some people get very defensive about Legion...I would be willing to bet that there are a good amount of people that share my sentiment. I think Legion is great for building a local following of a team. It's great to see a community get involved. With the type of things that go on sometimes though I don't know that I would want my little boys exposed to that.

 

Are you talking about the players and coaches in general or are you throwing the fans into your discussion?[/quote]


The whole atmosphere is nothing I would ever want to bring my family too. As I mentioned above this, I wouldn't want my boys exposed to some of the things that are said and done at some legion games. Not all places are like that but there are some places that have a distinct reputation for being hostile environments to play in. It's up to the area commissioners to police it and until they think it's a problem and put in provisions to change it it's going to continue. If someone on here disagrees than I think they should be proactive to address it with the proper officials to get it changed. Legion didn't get the reputation it has without something happening. I would love to go work a Legion game and have it be an enjoyable experience. My problem is not with the idea of Legion baseball, my problem is with Legion baseball in its current state.

 

Not defensive, theyre just going to defend what they believe in, just like you said you would rather call showcase games,,,,,,,,,, I dont disagree with the fact that showcase is much more "civil",,,,, afterall lets be honest showcases are all about kids being on their best behavior wanting to impress a scout (they HAD BETTER be on their best behavior). On the other hand, if you go to a legion playoff game tonite with Rowan County playing their archrival Mocksville,,,,,,,, then yes you may see a temper or 2. Comparing showcase vs. legion in many ways is simply apples and oranges because of what the purpose is,,,,,,,,, but in many instances its all the same kids, because many kids do both if they have the opportunities.

 

Give it a Rest!

How the heck did Anonymous turn this thread into a legion vs showcase thread. You guys that are Showcase vs Legion zealots are priceless. Having a son who has played both in the last 4 years, I agree with TJ21 completely. Neither form of baseball is perfect and neither is horrible (most things in this world come in shades of gray, though we try to make them solely black or white). If you asked me to, I could write a paragraph ripping Showcase to shreads, or a paragraph ripping Legion, or a paragraph lauding either. Only a fool would completely write off Legion baseball or Showcase baseball. They both have their place in the world. My son returned to Legion this summer and I've loved every minute of it, just like I loved his experience in Showcase the last two years.

All I know is that Queen City gets to head up to Cherryville for the semifinals of Area IV and I can't wait.

 

The whole atmosphere is nothing I would ever want to bring my family too. As I mentioned above this, I wouldn't want my boys exposed to some of the things that are said and done at some legion games. Not all places are like that but there are some places that have a distinct reputation for being hostile environments to play in. It's up to the area commissioners to police it and until they think it's a problem and put in provisions to change it it's going to continue. If someone on here disagrees than I think they should be proactive to address it with the proper officials to get it changed. Legion didn't get the reputation it has without something happening. I would love to go work a Legion game and have it be an enjoyable experience. My problem is not with the idea of Legion baseball, my problem is with Legion baseball in its current state.[/QUOTE]


This was not my quote I believe it was yours. I did make the statement that is not highlighted as a quote. Sometimes I simply dont understand. I hear people get on the boards and talk about the lack of support for teams and then I hear others that are offended by this. My child has been to several of the legion games and she has asked about why the people are acting certain ways. I then answer as I should and explain to my daughter the differences.