Do High School coaches value character?

BTW

I do not know that the original post here had to do with my program.
I was strictly speaking as a coach who has had to deal with these things.

For extended thought:
When I was a young assistant, I thought every kid who screwed up should be thrown off -because I had ALWAYS been the 'yes sir/no sir, run through the brick wall' type. And I remembered that often in my playing days I had resented others not getting harsh enough penalties - in my opinion.
So anyway... in my first full year coaching at the varsity level, there was one player whoe REALLY rubbed me wrong. He was arrogant, seemed to live by his own rules with the head coach, mouthed off to me constantly, etc. I once told the head coach," either he goes or I go!" The coach told me that he really valued me and thought I could have success as a coach, but if I had to go...
Bottom line, I was 22 myself, coaching a 17 year old. He was much of what I said above. But I was also not very mature. I was only thinking of ME. I didn't want to understand anything about him - he just needed to "get in line."


Lastly... some say I've 'mellowed'. I don't know. I can still be loud and stern and all that if need be - and I am often, just ask. But I have learned that every person and every situation is not 'the same'. The are variables. (Hey, sometimes you bunt with runners on 1B and 2B with no outs; sometimes you swing away.)


There is a time and place where a line should be drawn that can not be crossed. That time, that place, and that line is not always the same for everyone. That, too, may be wrong...

 

Well said.

 

Was that statement directed to the player, player's parents or both?

 

Really was not directed at anybody in particular. It is simply in response to the original question about coaches and I made a point in fact that I have seen a coach who valued certain behaviors and would act on them as he has with multiple players including one playing for him right now slated to go to play at the next level.

As for:

"so my answer is both. with parents being first"

Is also directed at no one in particular it is just my humble opinion that coaches should valued character (as asked) but that parents need to be the primary guider of that trait. I also was not suggesting anything related to any player or players parents it was a reference to the coach question only. "Parents first" in reference to the second post from Hugunot. The two aren't related by example.

So if you are reading into my post that I was suggesting anything to a particular player or parent you misread.

All that being said, see above for Catcoach posts as he brings valid points and reference to the equation.

If parents, players or coaches read what I have to say they all have the absolute right to think I am full of it, but it is my opinion.

 

Absolutely correct. Although I believe your opinions are highly valued.

Most posts on this board are opinions. What value one places on those opinions is determined by the reader.

catcoach is a hoot! When you read between the humor he posts, you will find many gems.

 

Respect The Game

I agree that respect comes from home. I also understand that young men will blow up sometimes! I came from old school coaches. Guys who would jerk your butt up in a minute (you would be in jail if you did that now) and if you didn't run as hard as you could on and off the field you would sit and rest I can remember throwing a bat the whole practice for throwing it in a game! When I was coaching AAU baseball we had a chance to watch kids play the game in wheel chairs. When the game was over I ask the players what would those kids give to be able t.o run on a field!!! I also think that if you have rules they are equal for everyone and should be forced the same way! I would hate to see one of my sons kicked off a team but it's like a job if you break rules you lose your job! Who needs to teach a young man respect if he breaks rules!if he has the chance to play in college it will for sure happen there! I would hate to be a HS coach with this problem but I also think that if I had rules and you broke them you would be finished although I hope I'm never put in that situation because I love kids! My thoughts!

 

I did not question your opinions. You are right, character is very important and it does start at home. I just asked a question.

In your post your said "That being said I have seen our high school coach send a kid off the field mid-season for behavior that wasn't accepted. good player too, playing in college now." You said "A kid" not "some kids".....and "good player" not "good players". It seemed as though it was a reference to a single player. And a reference to lack of character. But I guess I misread. And you are right Catcoach made many valid points.

 

OH MY!

I HAVE BEEN VALIDATED!!!!

Call my parents.
Call my wife.
It has all been worth it...
(sob... sob... tears... wave)




Really, I do appreciate it. I try to make good points (whatever that means), but often wonder if I just muddy the water or am too subjective, then simply just hacking everybody off.

 

just happened to use a single example that came to mind, but not with the intent to call anyone out. Nor did I mean to allude that it was the only example. Statements of opinion are more effectively debated when providing sample data to back them that's all that was intended.

ps: catcoach, I have calls into all your parents.

 

I MEANT my biological ones!
Uuuuggggghhh!!!