Children making decisions

Doesn't really matter about dog in the fight, just an opinion like several others have shared

 

I don't think you are adding any fuel to the so called "fire" and I welcome any feedback weather I agree or disagree with it. Now onto a few items, I have no vendetta against John Corn at all, I merely posted a response to a thread he started and stated my opinion about what I think about someone being to young to make this type of decision. Someone responded and suggested that I should start my own thread about the topic and therefore I did so. With the thread that he started getting 3,714 views and 48 responses/replies I would certainly say that it must have been a worthy read and interesting for some and garnered his organization publicity. Now this thread is up to 900 plus views so it's certainly a topic that has some significant importance & merit as the numbers don't lie. As far as the NCAA creating some rules to prohibit this common practice, I do believe that would be a good thing for all but surely you or others don't need the NCAA or any other governing or government body to tell you what is right from wrong do you??? Additionally, anyone that is currently involved as a TB coach I would not expect them to agree with my prospective and I'm fine with that. How I see it, 14 is just to young period and if you and others disagree and see it as an opportunity that is your prerogative. Just because others are doing this doesn't make it right or the right thing to do. Whatever decision that you & your wife make for your child is on you and you alone. Just understand if you find yourself in a situation that it doesn't work because of a premature decision, well you know what they say about hind sight being 20/20


I don't believe this is a problem that college coaches started, I believe it's a combination of college coaches, TB coaches & tournament directors. How I see it, everyone is in a rush to say yeah I'm verbally committed to such & such school and it puts undue and or unnecessary pressure on others as they will feel the need to do the same to in order to keep up and not be left behind. This is one of the main problems with society today as a whole, the instance need for gratification and the look at me mentality. Parents & coaches have a responsibility to help guide the youth from making poor and or ill advised decision.


This is my 2 cents on it, some will value it as more than others while there is a whole others side that will value it as zero. As far as my tag line, it's a pun and obviously you don't get it or understand either. If putting my name on this will give it merit then please tell me why that is? If you really want to know my name, it's not hard to find out as all you have to do is look, it's right there for all to see

 

Cheeze, Im not trying to stir the pot I just like to know who I am communicating with, I don't know who fastpitch1994 is (nor does anyone else I have asked) and I don't even know who you are and you're the moderator, but somehow everyone knows who I am? Fastpitch19994 says we all know who he is, no one does, and that's how he wants to keep it.

As for this thread and message board I am done, i think we all agree there are issues with recruiting processes and timelines and agree the younger you are the larger the risk to all parties involved. The cause and solution has opinions all over the map and its all good.

However, Its dangerous when the moderator of the entire board tries to control the communication. Why don't you let my opinions stand without trying to correct them or minimize them, but for those who posts opinions more in line with yours they get the Cheeze stamp of approval. Don't call yourself “moderator”…your not. Making sure that the opportunity to speak is balanced out is the most basic job that a moderator has.

You state this discussion started long before Corn posted his commitments, yes I get the arguments go back years, and is getting worse, but my response was from the posts that started on 12/12/15 by my account that's 3 weeks ago.

The response to that post was personal – “A 2019 graduate, seriously???? A young girl at this age shouldn't be committing to a school, this is just absurd in my opinion. Furthermore, as her coach, if you were looking out for her best interest, you would not be posting this information unless you are pushing your own agenda.” You may say its null and void but its all there for anyone to see, its goes on ad on and on and you as moderator just chime in when you hear something that is closer to your opinion than others. I responded specifically to that post so how is it null and void, because you say so?

You state you have seen multiple posts about early commits, but yet only one organization was called out – but its just coincidence then its John Corn organization. I won’t list every other organization that has 2019 commits, if fastpitch1994 is truly appalled he needs to respond to everyone of them, not just LL organization. You don't see where anyone is bashing Corn? Do you think statements like “Organizations like yours serve your OWN INTEREST before others isn’t a shot a Corn. Goes on and on about why HE is not a good coach…have you read it Cheeze?

You hate the word Stupid. Quoting Fastpitch1994 “If the parents are on board with this idea and encouraging it just so they can say my 14U has committed to go play softball at the University of .......... that is just out right stupid no matter how you cut it”…Call him out Cheese…why just me take your blinders off.

You state several times “I honor your opinion, you honor mine”. But then as soon as someone state a view that differs from yours you call on others to chime in with facts or opinions that are in line with yours, and when someone actually likes a post that differs from your opinion you say “you have a dog in the fight, who you keepin score for now and use that persons name” trying to minimize their opinion. Why don't you call Fastpitch1994 by name?

Gentlemen we have reached a point where this travel ball coach will find somewhere else to talk softball and certainly somewhere else to promote any young lady who has verballed. Unless you offer an opinion that aligns with the “moderator”, you will be minimized, and corrected. I will miss the entertainment though.

Anyone who knows any other softball forums where we can truly have opinions that aren’t moderated and filtered , please let me know please, just email me everyone apparently knows who I am. In mean time, I’m taking my talents to South Beach and the Rising Stars Showcase to let some college coaches watch some of my 14u kids (that's a pun Fastpitchdad1994 in case you didn't get it or understand it).

 

Love it Dave. Now it is epic!

 

Where is DJT

Has DJT has been on this thread? I love it.....Dave don't leave. Your opinion counts. Corn your opinion counts and 1994 yours does too. Don't hold back. This how change takes place. Call out some of those D1's, ACC and SEC and so on. Its all about $$$$ and winning. That is the bottom line. I see it happening in VB and Soccer now.
Don't be suprise when we see a 12U commit. We will have this same decussion again.
I wonder at what age did Jennis Finch or Monica Abbott committed?

 

I'm off to buy my 14 year old a lottery ticket. I want the opportunity to see if she can manage $450,000,000!

 

sorry

No need for that... i already got the winning ticket

 

Not once did I ever say everyone knows who I am, so get your facts straight. Furthermore, not once did I ever ask Cheeze or anyone to side with me on any of my opinions ever. If others agree and like what I have to say why is that such a problem for you??? Might it be that you or someone associated with you has 14 year olds making these same type of anouncements as well? The fact that you think I have made this about one particular person or organization is ridiculous and tells me volumes about you. Yes I see where there was another post recently about other 14 year old making a verbal and that why I started this thread so it wouldn't take away from them as others said I was doing. If you don't like my opinions and assessments then it's real simple, don't read them or post to them. I have been involved with softball for a long time and seen quite a few things during my time. Just because I refuse to subcribe to the newer theory/ideology of younger is the way it is now does not make me wrong.

Most everthing in life is black or white, the grey area is what always gets people in trouble, always has, always will. As far as another softball forum, I hear that Flo Softball & Goldfastpitch.com are pretty good but I have chosen to stay here on the good ole boy network. Didn't get your "pun" so could you please elaborate as I guess I'm just to far behind the times

 

Apparently there are quite a few that feel the same as I do. This article was published just a few weeks ago

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/12/08/sports/ncaa-coaches-early-recruiting-lacrosse-softball.html?_r=0