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Discussion in 'Softball Forum' started by Pop Rivers, Jun 6, 2005.

  1. CCFASTPITCH

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    Play the game right!

    Play the game the way it was intended. Every run is earned.
    I am sure Baseball would also agree! I t would like to see a baseball game be resolved in an international tie breaker.. yeah right.
    The game is set up the proper way.
     
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    Let me ruffle a few "purist" feathers and suggest moving the pitching rubber back about 3-5 feet and the bases 10 feet. I love softball but I'm as tired as anybody of watching the college world series having one shutout after another, and the high school game going 18 innings without scoring. I love a good low-scoring pitcher's duel, but it happens too often in softball, especially compared to baseball. The old axiom "defense wins championships" is true in both, but the difference is that means a dominant pitcher in softball (37 K's ?, that's 2 per inning!) versus truly good defense in baseball. Moving the rubber and bases back would bring in more offense and help with the safety factor, as I've seen many pitchers with masks and even seen a thread asking for masks for infielders. Like I said, I love softball, my daughter plays and enjoys it. But I've also been on the baseball side with my son, and there's a big difference. Maybe you guys like the difference...just my opinion that it leads to watching two players (the pitchers) dominating the action.

    OK, I've said my peace, go ahead and tell me why I'm wrong. I can take it, and I'll probably agree after I hear the arguments against it. By the way, I'm not advocating going back to slow pitch...that's for us old guys.
     
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    Good Idea.

    I am OK with that idea because it is line with the college game. The great thing about this idea is that it is in line with respecting the game and earning the runs, not placing a runner on 2nd.
     
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    I also have no problem with rule changes that not only respect the game but prepare players for the next level. But let championships be earned not given by a start at second. Teams should work to win.
     
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    Before we get to "pure" about softball and earning every run and this is how the game is "meant to be played", and being given free passes to 2nd, let me share something that is going on in the roud table discussions about high school softball. It is interesting that some mention baseball. I assume you are talking about high school baseball here. There has been some talk to limiting pitchers in softball to game and weekly limits as to how many they can go in a 7 day period. Now talk about changes taking place in our State. Let's see now, international tie-breaker rule or limiting pitchers to daily or weekly innings. Think back to this past weekend in Raleigh. If you had to choose between the two offers on the table, and one or the other is coming in the near future. Which would you choose? Just food for thought!
     
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    Leave it to the North Carolina HS Athletic Association to come up with something a stupid as that. I don't think they have a clue with some of the rules we (NC) have. Our sport is trying to grow but we are held up by people who don't know how the sport is played nationally ie: our number of games per year rule and as sbmom wrote the dead period rules for August. If it gets to bad we will see our high school girls doing like the west coast girls and give up on high school and only play travel ball
     
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    Oh No! Lets don,t put rec. league rules into the high school game. If that happens alot of people would start playing strictly travel ball. Most high school teams dont have 2 good pitchers. Don,t hurt the game.
     
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    As some schools in the State see it, it would be nice to have a pitcher, much less two pretty good ones, in some cases 2 great pitchers, and in some cases like in Raleigh this weekend. pitchers who are the cream of the crop. There was a very large number of teams in each classification that knew coming into this season that a trip to Raleigh was out of the question. No pitcher! No pitching means no or limited wins. Some schools would jump for joy if one pitcher could develop or transfer in. I know it is going to come up on a regular basis in discussions(limitations on pitchers). All schools aren't sharing in the excitement of great seasons. They are trying to field teams without pitchers and some don't appreciate the success of other programs. I don't believe that is the way to be personally. I am just letting you in on what is being talked about.
     
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    Limit Pitching??

    Oh, that would be really great for teams like mine (Hunter Huss) who can barely muster a competative team, and are greatful for one good pitcher, yeah, lets limit how many innings our "ONE" pitcher can pitch a week and watch how fast the girls transfer out of our district. Please, someone in Raleigh use you heads!!!!! Seems to me that theres a heck of a lot more important things to cure than that. :banginghe
     
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    For what it's worth

    International tie-breaker rule would be fair as both teams get to put a player on base....

    Innings pitched in baseball versus softball...no real comparison here...in softball the pitchers strength come from the large muscles in the leg which recover much more quickly that the elbows and shoulder of baseball pitchers. I don't think we need that yet.

    Moving the pitching rubber back happened a few years ago in college and it is still a "pitcher's game" But there is less reliance on slappers. Speed on the base path is what makes softball it's own game...separate from baseball...at least one of the things.

    So if there is anyone reading this that can make a difference in the rule committee...there's my:twocents: otherwise I'm making a lot of noise for naught.
     

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