Rules & Standings ????

I thought it was 4/7 and 5/9 for the win. I'm sure it's spelled out somewhere. I asked because I noticed a college pitcher credited with a win who started, and pitched 3 innings. Also there was some debate on a high school team last year as to whether the starter got the win after 3.2 innings.

 

its very confusing to me. i've seen where a pitcher came out after 4 2/3 and not get the win. doesn't seem right. what if several pitchers were used and none pitched more than a couple innings? then what? wouldn't the win go to the pitcher who was in the game while taking the lead?

 

In high school baseball, the winning pitcher only has to get one out to be able to receive credit for a win. Example- Say the away team comes out in the top of the first and gets 5 runs. Then they away team takes the field and the pitcher(lets use the name GEORGE) retires the first batter and then he loads the bases and the coach takes him out. After being taken out, say the relief pitcher(we will use JIM) has the batter hit into a double play and at the end of the inning the score is 5-1. GEORGE would get the win because he did get one out and then left the game with his team winning.

 

SoutherNo1 and PTBaseball,,, I saw the same thing that you guys saw about the Tarheel starting pitcher getting the win and only pitching 3 innings,,,, it made me wonder too. Nevertheless, I'm sure one of us can find it in black and white somewhere, because 3 innings for a college 9 inning game certainly don't sound right at all. Maybe I've went all these years just "ASSUMING" that it was 5 innings, but I swear I know a lot of college coaches who believe its 5 too. I've seen numerous college coaches leave their starter out there trying to get him through the 5th just to get the kid the W. As for high school, since there's a mercy rule, I could swear that somebody told me once that a starter has to only go 4 in a mercy shortened HS game. But I could be wrong.

Killa4,,, in your example, are you referring to a starting pitcher need only get one out? I've simply never seen that at any level. Sorry. A reliever yes, but a starter must get some outs and get thru some innings, obviously our big question here is "how many innings".

We need Braves to chime in anytime now,,,,,,, I'm sure he can shed some light on how many innings a starter must go... Braves oh Braves where are you???


Btw DownSouth,,,, you guys take it easy on the rest of the legion world this summer,,, ok? Good to hear from you... Won't be long...

 

So in the Carolina scenario above who gets the win? Somebody has to. I know in our HS games, if it is a blowout we might go 2-2-1 with 3 pitchers, 5 inning mercy rule game. The starter deserves the win. Can there be a win with no winning pitcher?

 

Mudcat,,,, thats a good point. But there's always a winning pitcher and always a losing pitcher. Let me see if we can find some black and white somewhere.

 

UNC Starting pitcher

As far as the UNC starting pitcher getting the win with only 3 innings, I am really wondering if there is something special about the report that it was a "predetermined staff outing."

I don't really know what that means, but perhaps that makes the difference. Especially since the relief pitchers did well and could have deserved a win.

 

As far as I know, if the game is a "planned split" (using quotes because that's what I heard it called) between 2 (or more) pitchers, or a "predeterined staff outing", the starter does not have to throw 5 innings to qualify for the win. We had a weekday game in college where it worked out that the starter threw 3-4 innings (as per the coach's plan), and we ended up winning by the mercy rule in the 8th inning, and the starter got the win. Coach called it a "planned split".

Doesn't the official scorekeeper have the final say as to who gets the W?

 

Here it is...

 

Here is another one...

There is an exception in the rule for number of innings the starting pitcher must complete to be considered the winning pitcher...

By prearrangement, if three or more pitchers are to be used, the pitcher of record shall be considered the winning pitcher.

Note: The pitcher of record shall be the one who is in the game at the time the winning team gains the lead, provided that lead is never relinquished, or the one who is charged with the runs by which the opposing team takes the lead, provided the lead is never relinquished.

Since Warren pitched 3 innings and UNC was ahead 8-2 when he left the game, and the pitching assignment was prearranged using 3 or more pitchers, he was listed as the winning pitcher.