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Define Recruiting - Active vs Passing Interest

Discussion in 'Baseball' started by DQBATS, Sep 25, 2006.

  1. moesyslak

    moesyslak Banned From TBR

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    best to plan to save your money and be prepared to pay it all yourself
     
  2. doctorbuzz

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    Paying for College

    I just wanted to chime in here. On this board and others, people have made the point about private schools and the "aid packages" these institutions can put together, which is very, very true. Also, some have pointed out the costs associated with private versus public schools. What is missing is the quality of the experience. When most of us old-timers (which excludes the youngsters that post) were in school, these state universities had only around 10K to 15K students and now they have 25K and 35K, which is a huge difference. What I'm trying to get at is that some of these kids will not thrive in the big state school environment, some won't thrive in a school in a metro area, and some won't thrive in a school in a rural area. So, what is more important, especially given the few that make it through college to the next level, is the kid/school match. Forget about the $$ up front, because if you don't invest in a place that is conducive to the kids intellectual development as well as his athletic development, he (and she) will be back home living with you once they are through with school (notice I didn't say graduate). So, when you look over the situation, don't make a decision based totally on the money, make it based on the long-term, i.e., what is in you child's best interest in the long-term. Playing ball at a D2 school, even though s/he (the child) may be talented enough to play D1, may be the best decision you make if the kid likes the school, the coaches, and is comfortable in the setting. Being happy where you end up is much more important than being disappointed or miserable for 4 or 5 years of your life.
    just my 2cents
     
  3. Braves

    Braves Watauga Pioneers #6

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    ..and it still dazzles my mind that when Prepster was going to UNC, his tuition was only a $1,000 a year vs $25-30,000 a year at most private schools now. My question is this: Are professors that much smarter now then Prepsters professors... because the disparity of tuition sure hasn't made a difference in UNC's football program.;)
     
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    A few corrections are in order:

    Tuition in Pre-Revolutionary days was payable in pounds sterling, as dollars hadn't been invented yet.

    Hard to know. When they saw that I'd signed up for the class, they usually took an impromptu sabbatical and turned it over for the semester to a graduate assistant!

    There are really two, related points to be made here:

    (1) There is a difference. At least back then, UNC contended for the ACC football championship.

    (2) UNC's a baseball school now! ;)


    By the way, UNC's fall baseball period concludes with their 5-game, intra-squad Fall World Series which begins on Wednesday, 10/11. All games are free and open to the public. Check tarheelblue.com in a few days for game times.
     
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    To reinforce doctorbuzz's earlier, excellent points:

    The best recruiting advice we ever received was that which a college head coach gave us early on. He said, "Determine those schools that you think you'd want to attend without considering baseball and then decide which baseball programs within that group make sense for you."

    Given the fact that baseball fortunes can change overnight (injury, coaching change, etc.), it's important to be in a place where you "fit" academically, socially, as well as athletically.

    Regarding the college divisions: First-rate baseball is being played in all divisions (DI, DII, DIII, NAIA, and JUCO), and all should be seriously considered. The additional point I'd make is that references to "Division I" in the Carolinas need not necessarily refer to a large, state-supported university. With something like 17 Division I baseball programs in North Carolina, alone, there's a wide range of types and sizes of schools (and baseball programs) from which to choose.
     
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    do they?

    do college baseball programs play any "scrimmage" games vs. other colleges in the fall? or is it just practices & intrasquad games?
     
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    I am gonna give some personal info here in order to stress a point....

    My point in advance is it amazing how much things have changed over the past ten years in terms of what parents expect out of their children when it comes to cost of college.

    In 1995 Wake Forest costs 18k a year. (can you beleive that!) Anyways, my baseball scholarship was 12k. The reason I recieved so much money was because my family could literally pay 0$ out of pocket. They made three different offers to get the package right. I recieved 4k pell grant, 1,600$ for being in-state and I think my first year I had a loan for 1k.

    every year the cost of WFU went up till within four years the cost was at 28k. I had to get loans to pay the difference those next four years. Needless to say, when I finished my degree I have accumulated about 20k in loans.

    Now my main point/question is that not once did my parents ever think about paying that money back. those were my loans and it is now my college degree. Even though my scholarship paid almost 50k over four years, the rest of the cost were my responsibility.

    Why do most parents in todays world feel it is their responsibility to pay all their sons school? I talk to parents about their son taking out a school loan and most of them look at me like I am a cruel facist. Was I in a unique situation and never realized it? Do people make enough money to afford these ridiculous costs? What is so wrong with making your children invest in their own future and education?

    I pay 200$ a month towards my school loans and my tax return goes straight towards my bill every year. I still have a few years to go but it's getting there. It this the norm and I am just dealing with special cases?
     
  8. EastOfRaleigh

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    my take

    olefty,

    cause they are "loaned out"...... high mortgages, credit card debt, car loans, outrageous car insurance prem's, etc etc out the yazoo!!!............
    & little Johnny plays ball in all his spare time so he only contributes to the expense side and not the income side.

    just one take.
     
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    also

    also they've been told "there are scholarships out there if you'll just search them out".
     
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    I believe D1 schools only play intrasquad games, but junior colleges are allowed to scrimmage other schools.
     

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