Scorekeeping

Some of the problems I see is that most (NOT ALL) of the people keeping score just don't understand the rules. It's really that simple! As I read in a previous thread: there was a foul ball that was dropped and an error was not recorded. The next pitch the batter got a base hit! So what's the problem? The batter deserves credit for the hit, period! Should an error be recorded, ... yes! Watch any major league baseball game and you will see home field advantage scoring as well. It is what it is!

 

I can't enjoy the game unless I'm keeping stats. I just need to know exactly what everybody did when the games over. So, when parents are making comments about the game, I can give them specifics.
If my son is pitching, I want to know his pitch count and any other kids pitch count. I haven't ever done it because it's never happen but if the pitch count is too high I will get a message to the coach.

 

Southern

Been doing it for close to 40 years and love it.

 

Absolutely right RS. I have been keeping a scorebook for close to 40 years(since I was 16.) Thats why I put very little stock into the weekly 'stats" in the Telegram. I have kept the below taped in my scorebook for the past dozen or so years.


earned run
In baseball, an earned run is any run for which the pitcher is held accountable (i.e., the run scored as a result of normal pitching, and not due to a fielding error or a passed ball). All others are unearned runs. An error made by the pitcher in fielding his position is counted the same as an error by any other player.

Earned runs are specially denoted because of their use in calculating a pitcher's earned run average.

To determine whether a run is earned, the official scorer must reconstruct the inning as it would have occurred without the errors (for purposes of this rule, the "errors" also include catcher's interference and passed balls). The benefit of the doubt is always given to the pitcher in determining which bases would have been reached by errorless play.

If no errors occur during the inning, all runs are automatically earned. In a few cases, an error can be rendered harmless while the inning is still going on. For example, a runner on first base advances to second on a passed ball. The next batter walks. Since the runner would now have been at second anyway, the passed ball no longer has any impact on the earned/unearned calculation.

A run is counted as unearned when:

A batter reaches base on an error, and later comes around to score in that inning.
A baserunner scores after the third out would have been made.
A batter or runner advances one or more bases due to an error, and the inning ends before he otherwise would have scored.
While the inning is still being played, this last scenario can cause a temporary situation where a run has already scored, but its earned/unearned status is not yet certain. For example, with two outs, a runner on third base scores on a passed ball. For the time being, the run is unearned since the runner should still be at third. If the batter strikes out to end the inning, it will stay that way. If the batter gets a base hit, which would have scored the runner anyway, the run now becomes earned.

When pitchers are changed in the middle of an inning, and one or more errors have already occurred, it is possible to have a run charged as earned against a specific pitcher, but unearned to the team. The simplest example is when the defensive team records two outs and makes an error on a play that would have been the third out. A new pitcher comes into the game, and the next batter hits a home run. The runner who reached on the error comes around to score, and his run is unearned to both the prior pitcher and the team. However, the run scored by the batter is counted as earned against the relief pitcher, but unearned to the team (since there should have already been three outs).

 

ERA scoring

how about runners first and second with 1 out and the pitcher is pulled and the reliever gets a ground ball to the SS who throws the runner out at 3rd base. so runners are now on first and second with 2 outs and the next batter hits a double to score the two runners. how do you treat the runs scored against the pitchers?

 

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it's been well-documented that college coaches don't put stock in HS stat's, but when you think about state records, could there be some shady #'s out there that are being held up as the best?

 

Those two runners still belong to the pitcher who was pulled. Just because it wasn't the exact runners he left behind doesn't matter, he still left with two runners on and one out, and the double would have scored the two he left in your scenario. The guy who hits the double is now the relievers run if he scores.

 

Both runs would still be charged as runs to the pitcher who originally allowed the 1st two runners on base. However you didn't give enough info as to whether they were earned runs or not.