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Scorekeeping Question for the group

Discussion in 'Baseball' started by The Captain, Apr 9, 2007.

  1. The Captain

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    My apologies if this has been covered.

    Batter squares and scarifice bunts runner over. Batter reaches due to fielding/throwing error. How do you score the play? Obviously an error is charged but is the Sacrifice removed?
    Doesn't seem right that the batter gets charged an AB when he executed the SAC bunt and moved the runner but reached base safely due to error.

    Thanks
     
  2. mincmi

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    Batter is credited with a SAC and no official time AB. Batter is credited with a plate appearance. Error charged to fielder.
     
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  3. bbrksfan

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    How do you score this?

    Runner on first- Less than 2 outs
    Batter hits a hard single to left. Runner freezes on the line drive. The left fielder charges and throws to second to force the runner at second.
    It sounds like a fielders choice, but you would be penalizing the batter for a base running mistake.
    How do you score it?
     
  4. mincmi

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    FC - bad break for the hitter.
     
  5. coachevans26

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    Batter still gets credit for the SAC and NO AB. Reaching base as a result of an error is good for him
     
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    sac fly or error

    runner on 3rd with 1 out and batter hits a fly ball deep to the centerfielder who drops the ball and the run scores. do you credit a sac fly or is it just an error?
     
  7. SirJamesNC

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    SAC OR E8

    JUST LIKE THE BUNT SITUATION THE BATTER IS GIVEN A SAC FLY...AND DON'T FORGET ABOUT THE RBI. NEXT QUESTIONS IS THE RUN EARNED?
     
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    Sac or e8

    How do you rule it is a sac fly? How do you know it would be a sac fly if the cf didn't drop the ball. If he had caught the ball, how do you know he would not have thrown the runner out at the plate?
     
  9. mincmi

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    The scorer must judge that the fly was reasonably deep enough that if caught, the tagging runner could have scored. There is no evaluation of the fielders’ abilities, positively or negatively, to throw out the runner or “make a play”. If the scorer does not feel that the fly is not deep enough to reasonably score, then no sac fly is award, straight error in scoring, and no RBI. Also, you can not assume a double play in scoring.
     
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    You need more information at this point to judge if this is an earned run. How did the runner get on base? How did he advance? Was there an error or a pass ball that allowed him to advance that aided in his scoring?

    If the runner was on base without the result of an error or pass ball (not wild pitch, and no, pass balls are not recorded as errors) and continued to advance to third without the benefit of an error or pass ball, then yes, the run would be earned, even though the OF was charged with an error if your are ruling that that batter should be credited with a SF. If you rule straight error, no sac fly; you must wait to see what happens in the following hitters because you have ruled that the runner should have not advanced yet, and should still be on third with two outs. If the next hitter makes an out, then the run would be unearned because that should have been the third out of inning. Also any runs scored from that point on would also be unearned as the inning should have been over.

    However, if the next hitter(s) where to reach base with out the aid of an error or pass ball and the runner that was on third originally, and scored on the error by the OF, would have scored as a result of the following action, then that run would be earned.
     

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