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Discussion in 'Softball Forum' started by player3, May 21, 2007.

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May 24, 2007 at 10:37 AM #21

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Thanks!

I am so excited about the Games. Great coaches, great players, and a great venue to play. It will be an event to remember!!
May 24, 2007 at 12:57 PM #22

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I heard of this site thru the grapevine and joined for the ability to express my thoughts. That is just what this is, my thoughts and observations only. I of course would be disapointed if my DD didn't make the team, I think anyone would. I just feel very strongly that there needs to be a few changes in the selection process for future years. I myself am not too worried about future years for my DD she will be playing college ball next year at a D1 school. So that makes it a little more disapointing since this was the last year for her and she had been making the All State team before when it was just a list. thanks for allowing me to express my thoughts.

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thanks for joining and sharing your thoughts with us here.

i witnessed the Western team tryouts and i and a few others dont coach HS ball so the first assumation is wrong.

Tryouts are; as you mentioned, difficult with teams playing and not to mention other events that happen at this time of the year so this point is well taken and surely will be addressed for future reference. We have the best two coaches in this state and would put them up there in the REGION for that matter. 12 spots for a Western NC team......i take the next 12 and Play.....Great Talent and dedicated players who will be just a sucessful as those who Choose not to even tryout for whatever or the same reason(s)you referred to.

where did you hear about tbr softball or what inspired you to joined? just curious.
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May 24, 2007 at 1:28 PM #23

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Clarification!

The All-State team or just the list as you say and the State Games are totally different situations. Hopefully your hs coach has followed the process through and nominated your daughter for All-District. If she was nominated for All-District, her name automatically goes in to the pool of names for All-State. Seems like you are getting the two confused.
May 24, 2007 at 2:44 PM #24

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I heard of this site thru the grapevine and joined for the ability to express my thoughts. That is just what this is, my thoughts and observations only. I of course would be disapointed if my DD didn't make the team, I think anyone would. I just feel very strongly that there needs to be a few changes in the selection process for future years. I myself am not too worried about future years for my DD she will be playing college ball next year at a D1 school. So that makes it a little more disapointing since this was the last year for her and she had been making the All State team before when it was just a list. thanks for allowing me to express my thoughts.
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welcome softballfan46 to this board rocks, feel free to voice your opinion about softball and such, i'm sure that you'll keep it civil in your discussions. what school did you dd graduate from and where is she going to play in college??

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May 24, 2007 at 3:10 PM #25

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It's still all political. Nice effort though.
May 24, 2007 at 3:23 PM #26

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I AGREE WHOLE HEARTEDLY...

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Congrats to all that made the teams but I feel the State needs to look at the way they conducted this and change their ways for next year. There are a number of mistakes that have already been made can't wait to see what else happens. Here are just a few observations so far.

1. When you have a State game tryout and the coaches are coaches from high school teams and they pick the teams, you are not going to get fair picks. The teams should be picked by people who are not coaching HS softball then let the coaches have the team. If you have coaches that don't care for other coaches it goes against that schools good players.

2. Tryouts were in multiple locations to serve all areas of the state, it seems some girls were told they needed to attend all tryouts or they weren't told that and if you did go to more than one you made the team. Some girls were playing HS games over some of the weekends and couldn't attend but one tryout. Thinking that was ok, that is how the information read, one tryout for the different areas. Some really good talent was not picked for whatever reason and some that are mediocre were picked that went to multiple tryouts. True Coaches can tell in one tryout if the player is good or not. True tryouts are one try like the paper work stated and it should be the one nearest your area only unless approved by state due to conflicts and that player can't make the one closest to them.

Maybe we should have waited another year before trying to have State Games until everyone knew what they were doing. To much mixed information and none of it in the original information packet.
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I agree SOFTBALLFAN46 with your post, I also do not think it was fair to all involved, to have the state team coaches deciding who made the state team! As if,they wouldn't choose the players from their HS team, first! I am not saying that those players did not belong on the team, I'm just saying that the team choosing process, was not fair for all involved! Too many factors to mention them all, that went into making this opinion! I am sure, some players didn't even bother trying out, due to who state team coaches were, and what positions they played! Maybe next year the process could be to have a panel of judges, watch the tryouts and choose the players for the team and then turn the team over to the state team coaches!
But anyway Congrats to everyone who made the state teams!
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lets all try and agree that this was a great thing for our girls and remember this was the first attempt. if you have constructive thoughts as to how it might work better, please pm pop rivers and give him your suggestion. I'm sure he will listen to all who have a different outlook and take on this process. But lets not knock something as awesome as this, our girls have waited a long time for this to occur and pops needs to be given the credit. No process is ever perfect, but no change will ever be made unless a better idea is presented.
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lets all try and agree that this was a great thing for our girls and remember this was the first attempt. if you have constructive thoughts as to how it might work better, please pm pop rivers and give him your suggestion. I'm sure he will listen to all who have a different outlook and take on this process. But lets not knock something as awesome as this, our girls have waited a long time for this to occur and pops needs to be given the credit. No process is ever perfect, but no change will ever be made unless a better idea is presented.
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And the best way to acheive this would be to JOIN the association and not only have a voice but be able to help work towards our goals. the more people that join the stronger our voice becomes with the NCHSAA.
Remember that the NCHSAA runs the all-star ganes for football, soccer and the like but not Baseball or softball Pop and many others put in many days of hard work to get the association and games off the ground. And I thank them. Dont just complain about it if you really want to help make it a stronger and better program its easy. Just get involved.
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Excellent post, Dawgfan.....unfortunately, it takes too much effort for people to get involved. It's much easier for them to sit on their hands and complain...more fun for them, too!

CONGRATS to all the girls who made the rosters and THANK YOU PopRivers for putting it all together. It's sure to be a BLAST!!!
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Double Dog Dare said: ↑

Excellent post, Dawgfan.....unfortunately, it takes too much effort for people to get involved. It's much easier for them to sit on their hands and complain...more fun for them, too!

CONGRATS to all the girls who made the rosters and THANK YOU PopRivers for putting it all together. It's sure to be a BLAST!!!
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even better post.

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