Is it an RBI?

I'm not an offical scorer but I like to keep track of my daughter's high school team, so I have been keeping score in my own book. One of the girls hit a fly ball to left field at a recent game. I put down E7 in my score book. I did this because I thought the left fielder should have caught the ball, but she didn't touch it until after it hit the ground. Two runs scored. Are these RBI for her? Was it a hit?

 

If it was an error, then there would be no RBI from what i have learned.

 

I found this on a website.

Usually, no. But the scorer may award an RBI if, in his or her judgment, the run would have scored even had the out been made. One example might be a routine, but deep, fly ball, where the runner would have scored even if the catch had been made.

 

Imo, this is a hit and 2 rbi's. Just because you think that the fielder should have made the catch does not make it an error. She never touched the ball until after it hit the ground, it is a hit.

Do you give someone a double if the coach holds the batter at first and you think she could have made it to second?

 

Okay What Defines A Hit ??

Here is where the score book gets fuzzy, Take for example different speed of outfielders....ball hit between the centerfielder (JANE) & leftfielder (Rhonda), the ball is hit more to centerfield than to left. Jane heads toward ball and calls off Rhonda, but Jane does not have a lot of speed. Ball falls and hits the ground before Jane gets there...that is a hit,not because I think so , but ball was out of reach of the defensive player, and falls cleanly to the ground.You could sit there all day and say that was Rhonda's ball,someone should have caught it.Then you've got the throw from the outfield back into the infield scenario.Does the ball arrive clean into the infield ?? Does the outfielder throw it over her cutoff?? IF so how do I score the RBI'S ??? If the ball was a routine popup and the defensive player did not glove it I would say E !!

Guru

 

yes

totally agree.

 

If in the opinion of the scorer it should have been caught, then it is an error and not a hit, period. Matters not whether it was touched or not. That's what scorers do.

 

Okay..but in this case described, what do you do? If it was caught, would the runners advance on the catch? Then it would have been a sacrifice, no at bat. So is it a hit? a sacrifice with error to the fielder, but no official at bat? It's for an informative scorekeeper to figure out. The key in this case is did the outfielder touch the ball. If an outfielder stumbles, trips over shoelaces, loses the ball in the sun, and never touches the ball, it is scored a hit.

Great question!

 

No. If the outfielder stumbles over laces, looses it in the sun or pulls a hammie, it don't matter. If in the opinion of the scorer it should have been caught, then it is an error. There is no other option. It's not a hit, it is an at bat and you do not credit the resulting runs as RBI's.

 

Wrong Answer.......

.......it does matter if the ball falls in a "i've got it, you take it" scenario. In fact THATS the very time that simply putting a tip of a glove on a ball that should be caught, yet drops, would then AND ONLY then , be rule an error. The old fashion, "did she/he touch the ball" is BS. Many balls hit are "almost fielded" because the kid with the glove can go in a hole and make a play for an out 1 maybe 2 times out of 10. But the other 8 or 9 times she gets a glove on the ball or even catches it and throws off line to 1st is still a BASE HIT! ....BTW, for every texasleaguer that falls in for a basehit, I promise you, that same batter will have as many line drive ropes caught for outs. Scorekeeping is about consistency as much as knowledge.