Scholarships

The player GPA would have been higher if he had not had a F in the class he flunked.I have found out that another player lost his scholarship also.He had a GPA of 3.4.I just wanted some thoughts on this problem and I would like to thank everyone for their time.I will say that I talked to a coach and he told me that if a kid did not pan out to be what he thought he would be he would have the same scholarship for all 4 years.He told me that would be his mistake not the kid he made the offer to.

 

If you go on the NCAA website you can go to a pdf version of the compliance manual that all d1-d3 programs must follow. In the chapter devoted to eligibility there is a section devoted to progress toward degree requirements. There is a very cut and dry credit-to-GPA requirement, and you also have to earn at least 24 per year to remain eligible, average 12 a semester.

The question is why he wasn't automatically enrolled in summer school to get his average over 12. It is NCAA rule that an ineligible player can't compete in the fall if he is ineligible going into the school year. And, there is a new NCAA rule that states at the D1 level you can not get yourself eligible in the fall to compete in the spring. So this player would be out for the season if he is at a D1 school.

I will say I have heard of many programs at many different levels using poor classroom performance as a reason to cut a player's scholarship. If he had his scholarship taken before he was given a chance to improve his credits in summer school, then the coaching staff obviously had other plans in mind for his money and used his performance in class as the reason to cut his money.

This method of cutting money usually has to be cleared through the AD, and is without any exception I have ever heard of approved.

 

....theres more to this story than we know.

And, you're right lefty that the coach is using something to cut his $. Its called "1 year at a time $"!!!

And thats the way it is and has been since something like 1977.

My DDs boyfriend started at goalie,( I hate soccer ), for NCSU this Sunday.

Now this kid is smart, straight up, polite, and a damn good athlete.

No way the coach would cut this kids money right?

Well the coach did!

Now make some sense out of that!

 

It's soccer...what do you expect

 

Marlinfan1-

I guess if you are going to get involved with a communist sport you better start a union or expect not to get paid.

I'm only joking. You are exactly tight. It it's true definition it is a one year deal. I'm sure it is the worst part of a coach's job

 

So you are saying that a coach gives a kid almost a full ride and then the next year gives him nothing? That is hard to swallow.

 

Terrible

Terrible for the player but he did not meet the minimum standards required to be a sophmore and therefore did not meet his contractual agreement. One hour or five is irrevalent. The school has an obligation to all the other players and so did this player and now they suffer due to the failure of the player to take an obligation seriously.
My daughter just graduated this past May after four years of playing college ball and we made it clear to her, she had to keep grades on the top of her list as she also received academic money. We stressed her obligation to her teammates, the school, her family, and most of all to her future!
It is tough but we must teach our kids that committments must be met even when difficult.
I will go ahead and shoot myself as I know this is not a popular post!

 

throw 90- I think abbey fan hit the nail on the head. Every student athlete has an obligation to who ever is paying part or all of his/her tuition and costs. That obligation rests completely on the shoulders of them, not their parents or the coaches.

Every athletic department has academic tools for the athletes to use as they need. But in the end, it is their degree and education. They are the only ones who will benefit from the financial support others have given them when they receive their degrees.

Just as a couple of extra thoughts....

1- Averaging 24 credits a school year is still quite a ways off from completing their degree in four years. 12 a semester is about a six year pace.

I know you didn't really mean to get into this throw 90 but I feel this is a good forum to state this opinion...

2- We live in a society where people don't have to become adults at nearly the age they did in the past. When a student athlete can't stay academically they aren't upholding their end of a contractual obligation. By pointing fingers or questioning a coaches decision to cut a player's money in this circumstance it is only helping this student athlete not grow up. He/She has made a huge error that is costing others, as well as, themselves. Losing their scholarship is the best thing that could happen to them to help teach them what accountability is all about.

The same reason Bobby Knight became obsolete at a coach/mentor, is the reason we instinctively look to point fingers at the coach instead of the student.
Little spoken fact: Every player Coach Knight coached at Army and Indiana has earned their diploma. That's over thirty years!

 

Questions

I have been a long time reader and have found this to be the most informative board. But, I do have some questions and I think this is the place to ask....What happens when the spring roster is at 35 players and someone gets hurt? Can the team go to the student body and replace the player or does the team just continue on with 34? I was told baseball is the only sport that requires the players to be eligible in the fall and spring with the summer being catch up time. Is that true? Do teams lose alot of players due to academics before it is time to report the team GPA? Thanks for your response and I will go back to reading.

 

Teams that lose a player after the deadline will continue with less than 35. Most teams will only carry 25-28 on their travel roster anyways so there isn't any real numbers issue here.

I am not sure if other spring sports have the same academic calendar as baseball.

Every school has a compliance director whose job is to keep the school within NCAA rules. He is required to turn in transcripts at the end of the school season and again before the first day of classes. These guys end up being the bad guys because you can't really sneak any thing by them. And even if they are die hard fans of the institution they are at, they are a bit like the IRS.