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The Labrum List

Discussion in 'Baseball' started by SoutherNo1, Apr 24, 2009.

  1. Plate Dad

    Plate Dad It is what it is!!!!

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  2. SoutherNo1

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    I believe that in Jim's case, his tear was , as BaseballBuzz mentioned, a cumulative effect. He had some shoulder discomfort during his soph. year that was, IMO a result of year 'round playing. Although he refrained from throwing for a month, it wasn't enough layoff to rest his shoulder, and his mechanics slowly eroded. I have some film that shows it very plainly. That erosion led to undue stress that finally manifested itself in the form of an inflamed bicep tendon in one particular game. Luckily he had a very small tear. I hope the success rate for recovery is on the rise. Two big factors contribute to one's chances for recovery; 1-how dedicated you are to proper rehab. 2-avoiding the tendency to pitch competitively too soon. According to Jim's surgeon, allowing for a 12-16 month rehab is what he tends to prescribe over what was more commonly a 6-8 month period. Good luck to everyone involved.
     
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    There are some ways

    you can assure yourself of never getting hurt playing baseball. Dont play!
    For those that choose to play there are ways to help reduce your chances of getting hurt.

    Dont dive for balls.
    Dont try to throw the ball too hard to get anyone out.
    Dont pitch.
    Try to suck so you will ride the bench.
    Try to suck so bad the coach wont let you even practice.

    I believe there are guys that throw too much and dont rest from the throwing motion enough. I believe there are guys that dont throw enough and then try to throw too much. I believe there are guys that have poor throwing mechanics to lead to them getting hurt. And I believe there are guys with good throwing mechanics that simply are more genetically prone to injury from the throwing motion.

    I also believe you can do everything right and still get hurt. Its just part of taking the risk of playing and competing. Its easy to beat yourself up after your son gets hurt and say I should have, I could have, I would have. But hindsight is 20/20. Try to do the right things to the best of your ability and understand that part of playing and competing is taking the risk that you might get hurt.

    You can limit your chances of a labrum injury but regardless of what you do you can not eliminate them. Well you can , dont play hard or dont play at all.
     
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    My son had a labrum scare this year... when his dumbass tripped over a piece of lose carpet/mat going down into the dugout! As what I think Coach27 was alluding to... sometimes s#%t just happens!
     
  5. Mama Duck

    Mama Duck Bless your heart.

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    I know this is the Baseball forum...but there are several SB players out with the same injury....i think it is more year round play leading to stress leading to poor mechanics. JMO.
     
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    from experience..

    i have had two surgerys to repair my labrum. Mine was caused by multiple impacts to the shoulder. Multi sports... my doctor is an advocate of extensive and very specific shoulder exercise for all Baseball players..

    He is very concerned that coaches are not teaching stretching to thier players or parents are overdoing players at a young AGE. Mine occured at 35 he says he is seeing way too many 13 and 14 year olds..

    once it goes the shoulder is never really tight again..
     
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    Jonathan Redd and Blake Berry of louisburg college both underwent labrum surgery this year
     
  8. ATC

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    Pitching Mechanics and Labrum Tears

    Many of you know that I just joined TBR recently.

    I just found this thread and thought I would comment...

    It is true that labral tears can occur from a singe incident (i.e. a fielder diving with an outstretched arm).

    However, most pitchers suffer labral tears due to a wringing out effect of the long head of the biceps (which attaches on the top of the labrum).

    A classic example of the mechanical flaw that causes this can be seen in Mark Prior and Kerry Woods. Mark Prior has an upside down "W" and Kerry Woods has an upside down "L" of their pitching arms at foot plant.

    Here is a link that describes this issue... http://athletictrainingandcondition...03/what-do-golden-arches-have-to-do-with.html

    Hope this sheds some light on an area which we can change - pitching mechanics.
     
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    Correct?

    ATC, I'm interested to hear what your correct pitching mechanics would be. You said that an upside down W or an upside down L could directly lead to a tear in the labrum.

    How would you recommend a pitcher throw?
     
  10. ATC

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    Ball above shoulder at foot plant vs. elbow above shoulder.
     

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