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Batter vs. Rise ball pitcher

Discussion in 'Softball Forum' started by php1, May 18, 2009.

  1. php1

    php1 SI Viking fan

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    Does it matter where the batter stands in the batter's box vs a rise ball pitcher?

    I heard some people say move to the front of the box to be able to connect with the ball before it gets too high and I've heard some say move to the back of the box. That way if the ball is coming in at the high end of the strike zone, don't swing and it should be called a ball. Does any of this make sense or should a batter just go to the spot in the batter's box where they normally would??
     
  2. captain45

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    i have heard if u go to the front of the box a good rise ball pitcher can make it rise on you just like u were in the back of box.i tell my dd to go to the back and u can see it rise better.
     
  3. cheeze105

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    definately two trains of thought on the rise. some teach to go up front and hit it before it rises, and i've heard cd tell me its better to sit in the back of the box and it gives you more time to realize what it is and you wont hit it. but a good pitcher realizes where the batter is standing and makes adjustments accordingly. my dd used to do this with her drop and curve.
     
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    Get up in the box to hit ANY breaking pitch BUT a good pitcher or pitch caller will then try to bring the heat so you must have the bat speed to get up in the box.
     
  5. WndMillR

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    2 ways to look at it..

    Standing front or back, the batter has to control her swing thoughts and processes.... That is all about understanding your hitting zone.

    The big pressure is on the pitcher....

    How many of you coaches make your kids pitch at 46 feet....?

    If I am on the chalk in the back of the batter box, the pitcher has
    to adjust the dynamics of her pitch, because I have forced the catcher back. Learning to throw the low rise will help on this.

    Strike zone is still the front edge of the plate by rule,
    but if the rise ball flies up and forces the catcher to stand up to catch it,
    there is not ump alive that is gonna call a strike that a catcher blocks their vision on...

    Oh yea... drop balls....move the catcher back three feet, and see where the drop ball that is usually caught just behind the plate ends up....
    on the backstop fence...

    Note to any pitcher wanting to play in college...
    practice at 46 feet....

    it will save you some walks and the catcher some passed balls early in your career.
     
  6. nc2aump

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    THE RISE BALL!

    Leave it to WndmillR to come at this from a basic and direct approach. Thats why we get along on the field so well. The rise ball is one of the pitches that most pitchers throw as a "chase" pitch. Out of all the rise balls that are thrown, only 10% or less ever enter the strike zone. But if you'll remember the quote from A League of Their Own", "She can't hit'em, she can't lay off of 'em." It takes a very special hitter to be able to get on top of the rise pitch when it does enter the strike zone, and even then the odds of actually hitting the pitch effectively are astronomical. DISCIPLINE and knowing what that particular umpire is calling for the strike zone is the key. When I was coaching, even if the pitcher threw that pitch for a strike, I worked with my hitters not to swing, because over the long hall, swinging at even the rise ball strikes, creates very bad habits.
     
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    Absolutely correct!

    Very few pitchers can consistently throw the 'low rise' Charlie talks about. If she can then her name is Angela Tincher and you ain't going hit it anyway. The best thing to do is ALWAYS take the rise ball. Hitters should be trained to only look for waist down pitches against rise-ballers. I see a lot of poor rise-ballers in HS get away with it because HS batters can't lay off it.
     

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