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College Baseball Issues

Discussion in 'Baseball' started by Braves, Dec 1, 2009.

  1. Braves

    Braves Watauga Pioneers #6

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    So many people are confused about NCAA issues with the baseball programs: From graduating rates, transfers, summer school and scholarship dollars. You will find that college baseball is burdened with rules that pertain only to them.

    Take the time to read this short interesting article and tell me what you think.

    http://www.savecollegebaseball.com/The_Issues.html
     
  2. LKNbaseballfan

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    This was a great, informative article. It is a shame, that there are no college coaches or athletic directors on the NCAA Board Of Directors. I also think that the only way to get change is in numbers. All baseball, coaches, players and parents need to make phone calls and write letters to the NCAA Board of Directors requesting equal treatment for the sport of baseball;ie. coaches, players and fans. This article would be a good supply of information (stats) to be included in the letters and phone calls. So much for "America's Past Time". Seems to be a fight around every corner now, to keep "America" as it was intended!!!!!!!!! :furious: (Home of the Free and land of the "BRAVES"......not yankees....LOL)
     
  3. Braves

    Braves Watauga Pioneers #6

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    LOL...It's funny that some of he "decision makers' don't even have baseball programs.

    Everything about the changes in college baseball drove Ron Polk nuts, yet he was one of the very few that risked his career confronting these issues.
     
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    I am going to bite on this one, and hopefully it is not percieved in a negative manner.

    After reading through the information provided, it seems like one of the roots of the problem is a roster of 35 individuals. When one reads throught he percentages of players on scholarships in other sports, it is important to keep in mind that the percentage is a function of the number of positions. If you look at womens softball, for example, a common number on a roster is about 22 players, thus more can be on scholarship and a higher percentage as indicated in the article Granted, a softball pitcher goes many more innings than a baseball pitcher, but the number of games per week are about equivalent and I don't know if the difference between the games warrants about 13 extra spots in baseball. Football has a large number of scholarships, but look at the number of positions in the game and argument that injuries are more prevelant in the sport.

    Anyways, just something to think about. I agree that the more players that can be carried the better for everyone involved (coaches, players, parents!!!). However that does compromise the amount of money that can be awarded.

    The minimums of 25% award is pretty messed up, however and puts baseball at a disadvantage.
     
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    Just as an FYI baseball teams typically carry 14-18 pitchers almost a whole softball roster at many colleges. The pitching motion is far more strenuous than in softball causing more injuries.
     
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    The 35-man roster has nothing to do with appeasing players, coaches, and parents. The current roster is barely adequate to get a Division I team through the 56-game season; much less the NCAA tournament if it applies.

    While the pitching staff takes up almost half of every roster because of the aforementioned strain inherent in baseball pitching, at any given time there are a number of players who are unavailable or whose innings are severely limited due to injuries (especially pitchers). In actuality, virtually no team takes the field with a full complement of 35 players available to them. To reduce the roster size would be absolutely ludicrous.
     
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    I think travel rosters are limited to 25 also. As a comparison, NFL team rosters are limited to 53 with NCAA D1 rosters at 85 plus. MLB rosters are at around 40 I think.
     
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    It is frustrating the way things have gone for baseball at the college level; however, I imagine we have to remember college athletics have become a business. Until baseball programs actually generate a positive revenue stream, maybe we should be happy with what we get. We discussed scholarships only - curious to know how does baseball fair compared to the other sports with total cost to the college

    The requirement to sit out one year - should be two different actions, were you dropped or did you quit. Of course, I imagine coach can make it where you eventually quit. As parents this does not seem fair - wonder how coaches and university ADs view it (guess we already know)
     
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    scholarships

    what do you think of a D2 program with a jv team giving only 1 1/2 scholarships for the whole program.. 45 players.
     
  10. pirates05

    pirates05 baseball-lifer

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    College baseball always get the short end of the billion dollar industry called the NCAA. As far as baseball money, unless you are one of the few, who gets a lot of money, the money a player gets barely covers the expenses of college etc; room/board, meal, books, tuition. As far as money is concern a player at a D2 or D3 high academic school gets more academic money that covers more of their college expenses than a D1 baseball scholarship and that money you don't have to pay back. Common sense and equality should make this baseball problem easy to solve, but we all know the NCAA is short on that. The rule that sticks out to me is the transfer rule. Other sports don't lose a year of elgibilty, Professors don't lose tenue when they change schools, athletic directors or coaches don't have to sit out a year, when they change schools. Until a lot of these issues are corrected we will continue to see the bad side of College baseball.
     

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