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What is the correct call ?

Discussion in 'Softball Forum' started by TomMags, Jul 23, 2012.

  1. Jul 23, 2012 at 12:27 PM #1
    TomMags

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    Runner on 3rd no outs; batter hits ground ball to SS.
    Runner holds and does not run on contact. Batter is called out at first.
    After the out, the runner on 3rd decides to go home. The throw from first-base is wide and high to the catcher and she is safe at home.
    Since the runner held and did not score a result of the ball hit by the batter, but on the throw after the out, being wide and high… is this an RBI credited to the batter?
     
  2. Jul 23, 2012 at 1:01 PM #2
    slick50

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    RBI for batter is my choice.
     
  3. Jul 23, 2012 at 1:26 PM #3
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  4. Jul 23, 2012 at 1:56 PM #4
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    i see 9-1-3 as obstruction on page 71. Am i looking at wrong page?
     
  5. Jul 23, 2012 at 2:00 PM #5
    TomMags

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    I guess no RBI..
    Page 73.. Rule 9, Section 3, Article 5, sub-section “C” says... any put out. but...
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    It is not a run batted in if there is a double play from a force out, or one in​

    which the batter is put out or should have been put out on a batted ball
     
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  6. Jul 23, 2012 at 4:03 PM #6
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    I would score it as an RBI according to how I read the rule. Seems that it would be a throwing error. Hard to judge whether she would have been out or safe if the throw was on target. This is a discretion of the scorekeeper as well I guess.

    ART. 5 . . . A run batted in is credited to the batter when a runner scores
    because of:
    a. a base hit, including the batter-runner’s score on a home run.
    b. a sacrifice hit.
    c. any putout.
    d. a forced advance, such as for a base on balls or batter being hit.
    e. an error, provided two are not yet out and the error is such that the runner
    on third would have scored even if there had been no error.
    EXCEPTION: It is not a run batted in if there is a double play from a force out, or one in
    which the batter is put out or should have been put out on a batted ball.
     
  7. Jul 23, 2012 at 7:05 PM #7
    stanfield

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    If the runner scored because of an error it is not an RBI.
     
  8. Jul 28, 2012 at 5:19 AM #8
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    The exception does not apply in this situation. The exception is for double plays or double play attempts. The part of this rule that applies is if the scorekeeper feels the runner would have scored if the throw would have been caught by F2.

    If the throw would have retired the runner then no RBI, if the throw was not in time then RBI.


    Hope this helps
     
  9. Jul 28, 2012 at 10:42 AM #9
    coach1320

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    Can't Assume

    You can't assume the play at home would have been made regardless of the throw therefore the RBI is credited to the batter.

    If there had been a bad throw to 1B or the 1B had dropped the ball and the run scored then there would have been no RBI.
     

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