Hey Andy ......

When is Impact going to come out with the '05 follow list? Not that we are hurrying you or anything ......... but we are.

 

NC -

The IMPACT BASEBALL 05' Follow List will be out later this fall/ early winter. The list is is currently being compiled.

There are lots of talented 05's out there in the Carolinas.

~ Thanks

 

Impact- any idea why Tennessee doesn't recruit in the area?

 

Squid -

I am sure the University of Tennessee does recruit North Carolina players. But with the great amount of quality programs in North Carolina (that would recruit the similar style player UT would recruit), it is going to be very difficult for any program outside of the state to land players.

One example off the top of my noggin - A couple of years ago, Jason Neighborgall (GA Tech, 7th Rd Draftee) was heavily recruited by the University of Tennessee. UT was one of his top 3 choices.

 

thanks

 

Differences between In-State and Out-of-state tuitions also affect recruiting out of state. Take the 11.7 D1 scholarships that a University/College MAY elect to fund for their program and do the math.

University XYZ
In-state tuition 10,000
Out-of-state tuition 20,000

General Student population mix: 75 % In-state.
Average tuition for general student body: 12,500

11.7 Scholarship spots X 12,500 = 146,250 max tuition money to be split between 30 (probably) roster spots (not including red-shirt freshmen).

Average Tuition assistance available: 4,875

Result:
48% tuition assistance average when recruiting in-state.
24% tuition assistance average for the out-of-state student.

round off for simplified math:

Cost to in-state student/year: 5,000
Cost to out-of-state student/year: 15,000

Hmmmmmmm. They may have trouble competing for the top players out of state unless that player also qualifies for academic money on the side. If you were the parent of that player and were looking at a 5,000 In-state tuition (and where you could possibly travel to see him play) versus a 15,000 Out-of-state tuition (and see him rarely), you'd probably only do the Out-of-state if there was a major difference in the quality of the baseball program. Last time I heard, Tennessee was a football school and lags behind the UNC's/Wake's/NC States in baseball.

The schools with the top reputations (Florida, Miami, South Carolina, Georgia Tech, etc.) can recruit the top talent out of state. Other than that, it's difficult for them to compete against the strong programs that exist inside NC.

The South Carolina colleges/Universities don't recruit very heavily in NC for the same reason. Too many high quality options exist within the state. the ROI (Return on Investment) of time/effort just isn't there for them.

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If you do wish to play for UT (or another out-of-state University), the burden shifts to you as a player. Attend the Universities baseball camps, become known to the staff and work your butt off while you are there. Those are the out-of-state players that are usually recruited by those Universities ... the one's that they have established a relationship with.

 

This is a very good point, NC, but many of those programs recruit nationally.....which kind of reverses that line of thinking for THOSE programs you mentioned.

Miami, with the plethora of athletes to choose from in Florida, is starting to feel out the Carolinas, now that they have entered the ACC. Of course, their coach is from Charlotte, so he already has a good network.

 

Sure ... there are ways to get around it ... and the top players will always be recruited nationally. I was speaking about the typical college-level player instead of the the "national talent".

With other forms of tuition assistance and academic scholarships, there is always more money available at the top schools.... but it sure helps the player if he has the grades to attract these schools. It opens their options to additional funding sources and makes it easier to keep their program competitive.

 

interesting info, thanks for your thoughts...

 

I may be wrong, but the last team to make it to Omaha from the group of NCSU, Wake, UNC and UT is UT. Not bad for a football program.