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A Letter to Cary High School

Discussion in 'Baseball' started by Braves, Mar 24, 2011.

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  1. WCLion

    WCLion Full Access Member

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    I live far away from Cary and after reading this thread am extremely thankful about that. It would seem like Impin and other Cary supporters, would want a little continuity first and foremost. I don't know J4 from Adam, but if he cares about his players, knows baseball, and commits to sticking around for a long time, HIRE HIM NOW!!!!!!! When you're 0-9 being outscored 99-23 with serious parent issues and a stinky reputation you're in no position to be a choosy beggar.
     
  2. Impin

    Impin Junior Member

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    Lots of candidates for the Cary job

    Number one choice would be Todd Laughlin the Sanderson head coach. He has built a great program, is a Cary grad, lives in Cary, is a certified Wake County teacher, a wonderful head on his shoulders, and an all around great choice. He has said that he would like to come to Cary someday when the timing was right. Is it right or not - the administration will have to do the leg work. Second choice is Phil Woodell the long time and respected head coach at East Chapel Hill. He is a Cary resident, his kids graduated from Cary, he goes to First Baptist, is a certified teacher and has expressed interest in the past but was never given the courtesy of even a phone call from the previous AD. He also attended a game last week so perhaps he is interested. How about the current JV coach Yerger, also a certified teacher and the jv kids and parents think he's great. Here are others that are good choices and have expressed interest in the past: the jv coach at Holly Springs, Daryle Jones, a former JV and summer coach at Cary High, played at A&T, and has recently earned his teaching certificate, the JV coach at Panther Creek. If we want to go with no teaching certificate, a la J4, first of all it will be a tough sell with Wake County and the Cary High Administration, but there are a number of successful and experienced coaches who might jump at the chance to coach at the 4A level. How bout the Middle Creek assistant coach Joe Bornman. Coached a long time at West Raleigh, quite successfully and certainly demonstrates by his history a love for the kids and continues to donate his spare time to Middle Creek. I would bet he would be interested. Paul Costin would be interested. He has been a head coach at many levels including cary high school fall ball and as an assistant in the summer. He played himself at the triply A level. The AD at Cary is all over this search and will find a good candidate who will build a long lasting program similar to Fuquay, Lee County, Broughton and currently still in its growth stage at Middle Creek. Furthermore he will both instruct the coach and protect the coach from parents and other outside influences. This AD is a new bear. Something Cary has needed for sometime.
     
  3. Braves

    Braves Watauga Pioneers #6

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    You have mentioned some outstanding, capable coaches. I hope they have interest in coming to the program. My question is this position has been open every year for quite some time. What has changed that would make a Laughlin or Woodell accept the position now? For that matter any of the other coaches mentioned?

    Was the new AD not in position when the last coach was selected? Obviously, that didn't turn out well. But it's nice to hear that the new AD is willing to support and run interference if necessary...something that has been missing.

    I really hope they do find a talented coach (no matter who it is) that is willing to commit to building a program...Cary deserves that.
     
  4. edp102

    edp102 Cary Resident

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    A bunch of BS

    I love it when someone who is clearly wrong about something, "mans up" and admits it. Of course, it didn't happen in this situation, I'm just saying that I really like when it does happen !!! :acclaim:

    Ok so Impin has the ability to randomly name HS coaches who live in Cary, or JV coaches who live near Cary, or parents who have coached their kids who also live in or near Cary. How can you argue with that "logic" ?

    I don't know the two head coaches mentioned, but I don't understand why they would want to leave their programs to coach in Cary, simply because they live here. I work for IBM in RTP, but I'm not going to quit my job to work at SAS just because it's in Cary !!! (NOTE - ok, bad example because SAS is a much better company to work for than IBM, but you get my point) :sad:

    Jere being the Cary primary assistant varsity coach is as qualified or more as any JV coach, IMO. The parents mentioned (Bornman and Costin) who successfully coached their kids in youth leagues, are just as qualified as another parent - coach Lapp (who never coached a game at Cary - hired in 2010 and quit in 2010) - and again are certainly not "better" qualified.

    The only "valid" point which Impin has mentioned is the teaching certificate, but other head coaches have been hired without it. So if exceptions have been made, then why not for Jere ?

    Impin statements like - "He also attended a game last week so perhaps he is interested" - "the jv kids and parents think he's great" - "AD at Cary is all over this search and will find a good candidate" are just generic BS, similar to his statement in an earlier post (referencing my previous post) - "it was someone else who brought up Cary coaches telling players they could not play for the bulls. It never happened."

    What credibility does Impin have ? He was wrong and/or ignorant about previous Cary coaches and won't "man up" to it. Why should anything he says in this forum be listened to ? If he wants to state who he is, and how he knows all this stuff, then fine, we can have an intelligent debate about the facts. But someone who is proven wrong about "facts" that I know of to be true, does not have any credibility with me. (Note - I'm really ticked off now because I had to look up how to spell credibility - I had it as creditability :cussing:)

    I have never spoken a word to Jere Morton, I've seen him at some Cary/Green Hope games, and have exchanged a few notes via this forum. No one here is implying that he is the best coach that Cary can hire. What we are saying is that he is probably as good a coach as Cary is going to get - certainly as good as some of the recent Cary hires. In addition, he has promoted the school on this forum more than anyone has for any school. Frankly, I have rolled my eyes many times while reading his posts about how well Cary may do this year, etc. But he has certainly promoted Cary players to college coaches, etc. He has done way more for Cary baseball than the previous 8 coaches have combined - and because of that we feel that he deserved a chance to prove himself as a HS head coach.

    Do I think Jere will be given a chance at Cary - of course not. He has moved on, and the school has moved on, and on, and on, and after this next hire, will move on and on again. Being a Green Hope fan, I am more than happy to see Cary baseball now replace Panther Creek as the worst program in the Tri-9 - witness the recent 9-0 beat down by Panther Creek over Cary. According to the previosly mentioned N&O article, and using Impin's description for the Cary AD, currently the "bear" Cary AD is helping to coach a 0-10 baseball team which has been outscored 107-24. Assuming the "bear" Cary AD can continue to "help out" as well as he is currently doing, if Cary were to play 30 more games this season, and no runs scored by the opponent were counted, they would still be outscored by 11 this year !!!

    For Impin to claim that the "bear" is some how going to make Cary baseball into a Fuquay Varina or Lee County is about as malicious a slander on those two schools as is possible to make.

    PS - ok Braves, I know I'm over the top on this, I promise not to respond no matter how stupidily Impin replies - I'm leaving this thread up to you and others.
     
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    Sounds to me like Impin doesn't like J4, so all of his comments sound personal.
    Sounds like everyone else likes J4.
    Sounds like the AD "Bear" has his work cut out for him, especially since all the candidates Impin mentioned have been around the last 6 or more years and not tried for the job. (Todd coming to CHS makes me laugh).
    CHS's biggest problem is no one wants the job, no one except J4. But Middle Creek wants J4 and he is doing a great job there. He is very well liked by kids, parents, coaches and even though he has no teaching certificate the teachers respect him greatly. Also, he has started paperwork for his teaching certificate and been in touch with WCPSS several times and has been instructed by them as to what to do to pursue his teaching certificate, which will also be his masters as he does have his BS already. But you know what...WHO CARES? HE WANTS A JOB NO ONE ELSE WANTS TO DEAL WITH....at least give him a try.
     
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    I remember when the Cary program was one of the better programs around the Raleigh area. But there are things to consider when someone is mentioned that is currently a head coach in another school... I can see where a lateral move like the coach that was mentioned from a Wake County school. He probably has tenure and more job security. It would be tough to move from one system to another (say the coach from outside Wake County that was mentioned). It would be risky to go into a position where last hired is first fired in a RIFT situation that could develop in Wake County as a result of the increasing state budget cuts.

    I can see where the position at Cary would be a challenge and something attractive to an established coach that wanted a change of scenery, and therefore a new beginning. The opportunity to compete with well-respected coaches as Milton Senter (FV), Charlie Spivey (Lee Co.) Harry Jones (Panther Creek), Jeremy Thompson (Middle Creek) and programs that I respect greatly at Green Hope and Apex. And lets not forget about Holly Springs, the "top dog" the past 2 years. This would bean exciting challenge for any coach, regardless of his experience... To be honest, a challenge like that and an opportunity to rebuild a tradition would be interesting to me, if I were looking to get back into coaching and could afford the long travel... but I am not looking....

    IMHO, if Jere wants an opportunity and administration at Cary is willing to take a chance on him, then I believe it would be a great fit, because as it has been mentioned so many times here, nobody cares more for Cary Baseball than Jere! But to be frank and perfectly honest, Cary's loss is Middle Creek's gain. The experience Jere gains from coaching with one of the best young baseball minds in the state in Jeremy Thompson will benefit him in the long run.

    I wish the program at Cary good luck! I wish nothing but the best for my friend, Jere Morton!

    God has a plan and it will all play out soon!
     
  7. Braves

    Braves Watauga Pioneers #6

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    Thanks for all the responses. They were very good

    There is no longer a reason to keep this open. I believe everyone has had their say and have made their point. Really, nothing else can be said
     
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