Coaches vs Instructors

Not for me

when I was a student. Sports were the only reason I stayed in school. And they are the only reason I went to college. I hated school. Every morning I got up I had that sick feeling in my stomach. "OH S$*#!" But what got me through and kept me going was knowing the only way I was going to be able to play sports was if I went to school and made good grades. Later in life I learned that getting an education was more important. So Im glad I did. But the driving force behind getting that education had nothing to do with getting an education while I was getting it.

The lessons I learned through sports have been invaluable to me as an adult. Nothing I ever learned in a classroom prepared me more for life than what I was taught on the field of play by my coaches. Nothing.

I understand that this is not the ideal situation. But Im just keeping it real as they say. Being honest about it. Alot of kids are not mature enough in hs to understand how important getting an education is. If sports can be the driving forcce to keep them in school until they grow a brain Im all for it.

 

Reefer madness

so is pot smoking......so the more we can do to get them in sports and support them in sports is what we as adults should be doing. we also need to support the teachers and coaches as well.

 

it may be an EXTRAcurricular program (by the way the new term is COcurricular because,,,) it is still run by the school and still has to follow the school rules. i have seen both in my MANY years of teaching. i have seen good situations in both and BAD situations in both. still you need to remember that MOST coaches in high school went to school to become teachers and coaches for a reason. the love of the game.... working with kids... the whole ball of wax. for the most part i would want my kid to play for someone that has COMMITTED their life's work to this situation. a lot (NOT all by a long shot) of non staff coaches do it on a whim and not really think throught the process of field maintanance, time talking to college coaches (even though it is never enough in some parents minds), and trying to build a program that is bebeficial not only to them but to the school envornment as well.

question. who would you want to operate on you... someone who has committed themselves to medicine and go to school for it, or someone who has went through a lot of operations and, and just decides to operate on people.

again i have seen, and have one on my staff, some great non-teaching coaches.

 

I'd either take the one that is committed, gone to school with actual experience or those like dbacks, the one's that stayed in the Holiday Inn Express last night.

But, I hear ya Coach. You are absolutely correct

 

You mean recerational.

 

Hey Braves, and hey to everybody else.I read through the article and have my thoughts.I have coached baseball in the school system for middle school 2years.I am currently working on my 3rd year in the school system.I am not on school staff and have actually been a great help with the school program.I used to be a substitute teachewr in the school system and have been around the students for awhile.I helped out as an assistant coach both years and actually became more help because of not being on staff.It actually gave the players an chance to listen and learn from someone not teaching in a school all the time.I still followed the same ways of the coach,but also coached different positions and ways.And yes it is hard because of not being on staff,but it also helps because of being there for practice early until the other coach is let go from school duties like asi n waiting for 2nd bell to ring.Also the kids have a chance to hear someone else.

Coach Michael

 

So would you say that have one of each would be a better path?

 

Coach

there is no doubt that many people that are not on staff help out in many ways and do a great job. I dont anyone is trying to dispute that here. I think the main point was its alot easier if the person is on staff and they are the head coach. There are alot of dedicated HS coaches that got into teaching so they could coach young men. And there are alot of dedicated HS coaches that happen to do something else for a living during school hours. Oh and many many Middle School coaches as well. It does help to have people helping that are not on staff. Getting the field ready for a game or practice especially if you have had some bad weather. Being there when the coach has after school meetings etc etc. Its all good whatever helps out the kids and the program.

 

Hey Coach...welcome back. It's been too long.

Listen, I know of many great coaches that are non-staff. I hope I wasn't insinuating otherwise. Although all of them are assistants, they bring many things to the table, some of which you already stated.

The point I was trying to make is IF a non-employee head coach in Charlotte (which there is none) had an opportunity to turn a program around (like Garinger) he could be replaced at any time. He has no control over that...and that's a concern. But this is just one example.

Again, in Charlotte, we have a lot of qualified coaches available and some that would like to transfer in...so it would be extremely rare for that to happen. I could see it happen at some of the middle schools, though.

 

another spin

what about coaches that are on staff at a school other than the one he coaches at? like he teaches at ABC school and he coaches at XYZ school in the same school system. seems that would be tough, but I have seen it.