COACHING...CRAZY

These days a person has to be insane to coach HS athletics. It doesn't matter how much you love coaching......you've lost your mind. When your winning, half the people love you, the other half hates you because you win all the time. When it comes down to it the half that acts like they love you hates you too. They just want something for there kid so they appear to be "with you". You make any of them mad and they are all over you...lies, letters, phone calls, ect. looking for your job or your hide. Most of the time both. You start loosing and they are after everything previously mentioned. Parents have taken the joy away from coaching. (even seeing the glow in a kids eyes after he/she has made a great play) Thats not even worth it anymore. Parents ( NOT ALL PARENTS ) have ruined the athletic landscape by trying to relive through their children. Take Monte at CC, you read all this stuff of how great he is. Then you read those that want to bash him. According to some he is the greatest thing since sliced bread. Others look for every little thing to take him down. (By the way he is no angel. He is a sneak and will do what ever he needs to to get the advantage. HE KNOWS IT TOO!!! He asks for some of what he gets). But still he is out their for those kids and gets beat up alot. Other coaches do everything the "right" way, fair to their players, and do what they feel gives their team the best chance to be successful. But their are parents that beat these coaches up too. IT JUST AINT WORTH IT!!! Now this doesn't apply to all. Some parents are great. Support coaches wheither their kid plays or not, help out the program, they just enjoy all the players. But those folks are getting fewer and fewer in #s. BUT YOU ASK ANY PARENT>>>>oh yeah we support coach>>>but let little Johnny sit the bench one game for breaking a team rule>>>his parents are looking for a head to role and it aint Johnny's head.

 

Better be careful or they will close this thread too. I went back and read what was written on the other CC threads and whether you like it or not they were stating what they saw or perceived to have happened. Just because you don't like someones viewpoint doesn't mean you censor it. I have always thought that CC has been a popular target for many people to attack deserving or not. I don't live in the Charlotte area so I just don't have the passion for or against CC that some who comment on this board do. But, and I say But that doesn't mean as long as they keep it clean that they can't have a say. I enjoy a debatable topic as much as anybody. Nobody that I could tell called anybody out or used unacceptable language and if they did then just edit that post and send a warning. But, to just close the post is a little extreme. You can't go through life without stepping on a few toes thats just the way it is, but to make things sugar and spice isn't the answer either. Monte does catch a lot of attention but as you said Angeleyes if he wasn't winning then nobody would care. I have watched him coach and I see the passion he has for his players and program, this doesn't mean that everything he does is going to be looked upon favorably but he is there for them. I wish that there was a rivalry as strong as CC's in the mountains because it would be fun to watch. North Buncombe used to be a great rivaly but they have fallen on hard times, Pisgah is a good program as well but not as intense a rivalry as I see here. I cannot name all the programs in the mountains and by leaving any out is not an intended slam on their programs in anyway. Sometimes you have to have a disclaimer on this board to post... If you don't think people want to discuss these topics (within reason) then look at how many hits and posts were made on CC threads in less than a day.

 

I haven't read the thread so I am not sure why it was closed, but I will say this. This board was started because the other websites allowed players/ coaches to be attacked...and I didn't want to contribute to that sort of style. I created this because I wanted a forum where people could come and be informed, entertained and read about a player that deserved recognition.

What parent would go to a site to read about their child being slammed by a member of this board. Who would want to wake up and find out that someone called your daughter or son a $#%@#$#@#$% on the internet.

About coaches?...I have found that the coaches that contribute to this board are very informative and contribute in a positive manner. Do you think they would do that if they were criticized on here? Geez...you can't have it both ways. I'll take the side that they are welcomed and without fear of being attacked. This has been an extremely helpful forum to the softball community...and it will continue to grow and become even more informative as it grows across the state.

You have an excellent opportunity to use this forum to post about events coming up, the players that did well at those events, instructional drills, the do's and don't's in the sport and a myriad of other information that would be helpful to a player or parent. College coaches love to come in to this forum to read about the players that are unsigned, under the radar and what teams to follow according to rosters. Do you think they would visit if it was a board used to attack, slam players, coaches, parents or fellow members. As I said, there are other websites they can go and do that.

I believe we have done a great job in the softball forum in getting the word out about TBR. I believe we have a credible reputation in the softball circles...and I would like to maintain that.

Now, does that mean we can't disagree?...of course not. But there is not a reason that we can't do so respectfully.

I think this topic is interesting and can bring a good debate. But is it necessary to single out a particular team or coach to get your point across? This point can be aimed towards all coaches in every HS sport. Personally, I don't think any HS coach is rewarded financially for the commitments they make for their team...but all of them say they do it for the love of the game and the relationships they build with their players. I, also, agree that parents, in general, have taken some of the fun out of the game. It's a shame..but it doesn't appear to be changing. Some coaches can deal with it and some can't. It's a shame because we lose some very good coaches because of this problem.

 

AMEN!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Braves that is exactly what I like and have liked about this forum from day one. If you asking me why I singled Monte out I wasn't trying to single him out only. It just seems he is the topic of interest here lately and usually every time spring rolls around. I wont get into the parents because that is another topic in and of itself. The only point I was trying to get across was that a little lively debate is not such a bad thing. What exactly is the parameters or limits? Mainly being derogatory or downright insulting should be one criteria that is not allowed. I don't understand Trojan's anger if thats what it was in the CC thread but I did enjoy the other posts that were written in that thread. Sometimes people get over passionate or even a little overly zealous in here but with some corrective editing by the moderators and a pm to them about what it was that they didn't like would seem to me to be the way to go. Just closing a forum, closes it to everybody not just the one that may have went over the line. I have had several PM's about this thread and they've been positive so hopefully the point I was trying to make was understood at least by a few and I hope that I am able to articulate in this one to those that did not understand. Thanks for all you do Braves but just pulling the plug isn't always the only answer.

 

Enka, believe me I have no problem with you...ever! You are one of the reasons that this forum is so good.

All I ask of anyone is to be civil and respectful. I belive one can do this and still disagree with the other poster. This is not my forum, per se. I believe everyone here does a good job in policing themselves. I'm not a big believer in closing a thread, but sometimes it is warranted. If you find a thread that keeps beating a dead horse with post after post...the point was made and it's time to move on.

But to reply to your post Enka...we are fortunate to have you as a valuable member and I always look forward to reading your posts.

 

most know what Parents are capable and willing to do......................

thanks Braves, the fields are hot and dry!!

to those who dont care for the deletions....welcome back or welcome Aboard!!

gossip talk and the likes......just not whats desired by most here!

 

You have to love (again within reason) the debate just like the battle on the ballfield. Its not for everyone. Haven't read too much gossip here in a long time but maybe I need to read more of the threads and posts.

 

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Agree with what Brave says about the forum, should be informative, creative, and no one should feel they are going to be attacked because they disagree. We should all treat each member with respect and stay away from personal attacks, just give our opinion or advise on a given subject! I think for the most part softball parents and players are excellent role models for society as a whole. Let's all learn from the last couple post and leave out the abusive stuff! Great forum, love TBR's, and yes I post to much I am sure for some people! RET