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Discussion in 'Softball Forum' started by angelbaby, Mar 5, 2009.

  1. HIT-N-RUN

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    NOW WHICH ONE?

    to answer the first question: if the travel ball coaches girls on the hs team that he/she coached during the dead period, the answer is no, it is a clear violation of the rules and it doesnt matter if that person is a paid or volunteer coach for the hs.
    NOW WHICH ONE IS IT??????
    to answer the second question: the rules of coaching hs ball are pretty clear to me. dead periods are dead periods, you coach no one, you cant be on the field, or in most cases, near the field depending upon county rules. a hs coach can coach tb, but, he/she cannot have more than 8 players from his hs team on this tb team - this includes rising freshman who have not yet attended the hs, but are coming (i saw this rule applied a few years ago and it just hurt the rising freshmen involved).

    the hs/tb coach must follow the dead periods that apply to hs teams during tb season.

    Now, I have seen a HS coach(with his entire highschool team) that was involved in TB as a "headcoach"....but now when he was actually particapating in a weekend tournament - his title was score keeper....lol! He and the school was busted later but only after he won a 3A State Championship. Now could someone elaborate on the rules listed above.
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    I wasn't answering one question or the other, I was just stating the rule as I have been told in the past.
    During the summer when school is not in session.....a high school coach can coach a travel ball team with as many players from their team as they want.

    During the school year, they cannot work with more than 8 players at a time

    During a dead period, they cannot work with anyone. If they do, it's a violation.

    So a high school coach can coach travel ball as long as it falls within the rules above, basically during the summer. If I'm wrong on this, then please correct me.
     
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    You are not wrong on this. Baseball and Softball were grandfathered in so a high school coach can coach as many team members from his high school as he wants from after school ends to the first official football practice marking the dead month.
     
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    incorrect, according to raleigh, you can not coach more than eight players from your hs team, including rising freshman as a travel ball coach, and only during non dead periods. i guarantee that the people who make the statement that a hs coach can carry his whole team for the summer are hs coaches for only one summer......the rule is really pretty clear.
     
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    i hate to ask this, but grandfathered from what??? this has been the rule in softball for the last ten years or more......again, show me a hs coach with 9 or more players on the field during the summer and i'll show you a future umemployed hs coach and a heavily fined school.....every AD knows this rule.
     
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    My statements come from a situation where I know for a fact that a school called Raleigh and was told they were fine to coach as many as they want during the summer, but the restrictions go in place the first day the first dead period.
    From the NCHSAA Online Rulebook page 120 and 121
    Team practice in any sport is prohibited after the sports season ends until the first day following the final day of the school year. At no time during the school year may any off-season team gather with all positions represented. Any team practice or game environment created in an OFF-SEASON SKILL DEVELOPMENT SESSION is prohibited during the 180 day calendar.

    If a high school coach, regardless of the sporthe or she coaches at the high school, also coaches an “outside” or “club” team, whether head or assistant, and has any athletes from the high school on that outside team, he cannot
    work with any of them during a dead period, and is limited to no more than the sport-specified limit of them per day in an out-of-season workout.
    During the summer, coaches are free to work with individual or multiple players, from their school or their feeder schools, conduct practices,
    And the rule that was grandfathered in that you asked about...
    Coaches coaching a team outside the sports season but during the school year (basketball,soccer, etc) must still abide by the numbers restrictions above (one less than a team). Exception: baseball/softball (Legion baseball etc) which extends into the summer.
     
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    I got my information straight from the NCHSAA as well. They told me specifically that softball and baseball were grandfathered in and are free to have as many team members as they want during the summer. I was told that coaches cannot coach travel ball with more then 8 girls during the school year, that being the first fall practice to graduation. During the summer, as many as you want. So I am talking about less then 2 full months.
     
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    I personally know three FORMER hs coaches who tried this....one phone call to raleigh and they were gone...
     
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    By Raleigh you mean who exactly? and did they do travel ball all season or just for the couple months in the summer?
     
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    raleigh = Que Tucker and Rick Strunk.....the two that matter, and who did you talk to???

    these coaches dared to take their hs team on the road after hs season, eight would of been ok, nine to 14 was enough to get them fined and unemployed.
     

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