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Conference Tie Breaker???

Discussion in 'Softball Forum' started by pride08, Apr 23, 2008.

  1. pride08

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    Assuming 2 teams have the same conference record and split the 2 games during the season, how is it determined who is the higher seed for the playoffs?
     
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    I Think !!!

    Let the coaches duke it out !!!

    :boxing_smiley:

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    No...

    I believe they look at run differential in the games they played head to head then if that is still tied, coin flip.

    Could be dead wrong though...thought I remember that from a couple of years ago.....
     
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    Coin Flip !!!


    Well then I want a two-sided coin and I'll call !!!

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    Don't know for sure but I would guess runs allowed, then runs scored in their 2 games.
     
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    Tie Break Procedure

    From the NCHSAA handbook....

    (C) DETERMINING NCHSAA PLAYOFF REPRESENTATIVES: The following
    rules are used to determine which teams earn available berths into the NCHSAA playoffs, awarded on the basis of regular season standings. These are used AFTER completion of the conference tournament, or BEFORE NCHSAA PLAYOFFS if there is no tournament.
    (1) Award berths based on final regular season standings (see Section A). Note that if a tie is broken using head to head competition, the tie is broken from that point on and there is no need to use other criteria.
    (2) If three or more teams are tied, the team which advanced the furthest in the conference tournament will get the higher berth in the playoffs.
    (3) If two are still tied in the final standings, a special playoff game will be played unless the tied teams mutually agree to break the tie by other means. The playoff game may not violate the weekly limitations, and it could be preliminary game to the state playoffs or a game in the conference tournament. No playoff game shall be played prior to a conference tournament. A meeting between the tied teams which occurs in any round in the conference tournament would count as the playoff game.
    (4) If both teams are eliminated from the conference tournament but can still play the playoff game and not violate the weekly limitations, it shall be played. Exception: If a team advances to the conference tournament fi nals, even if a playoff game would not violate the weekly limitations, the game will not be played, and the team that advances to the fi nals gets
    the higher seed.
    (5) If the tie is not broken after (4), all previous head-to-head competition is used to break the tie (cannot be used with multiple ties).
    (6) If there is still a tie, it will be resolved by comparing how the tied team fared against the rest of the conference, starting with the number one team and moving down, if necessary, throughout the conference until the tie is broken. Example: A and B fi nished with equal conference records and split during the regular season, thereby tying for third place in the standings. A playoff game could not be played and they did not play each other in a non-conference game. Go to the number one position in the conference and compare how A and B did against that team. Say the tie cannot be resolved there (both teams split with the number-one team), so go to the number two team. Team A lost twice to the number two but B split with the number-two team. Therefore B would be seeded third and A fourth (even though they fi nished tied for third in the fi nal standings).


    (7) If the tie still exists, a draw will be held by the tied teams for the seeds available. All tied teams for a position will draw with the numbers of the spots for which they are tied in a hat.
    Example: A and B are tied for third and the tie is not resolved after going through the procedure through B3 above. The numbers three and four are put in a hat, and the schools will draw and assume the seed of the number drawn. The drawing will be done in alphabetical order as the schools are listed in the NCHSAA

    Directory.




    ie, they get to play each other again, either in conference tournament or a special playoff game. A draw for the spots is a last resort.

     
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    Thanks For The Info !!!

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    If I'm not mistaken, after head to head, you start with #1 in the conf. and look to see if either team defeated them....go to #2 and repeat......continue unless one of them had a better record. For example if one team defeated the #1 and the other team didn't, then the team that won would get the higher seed.
     
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    Tie Breaker

    I think I'll have to get my lawyer to review the document and get back with you. Have your machine call my machine we'll do lunch.
     
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    Coin Flip

    I know that in 2006, PHS and Weddington were tied for second place in the SW4A (both lost twice to Butler, and the two games were split between them), and it went straight to a coin toss, where PHS won for the number 2 seed.
     

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