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Instant Replay

Discussion in 'Baseball' started by LegionPost46, Oct 2, 2007.

  1. NC Baseball Fan

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    count me in

    I'm all for getting the calls right. saw too many game changing events take place. not saying it's the umps fault but sometimes they just flat out miss calls. anything to improve the fairness of the game i'm all for it. :boxing_smiley:
     
  2. Dbacks20

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    Say it ain't so

    My vote is NO on instant reply.......I'm with Braves that the game is slow enough already.

    Keeping the "chance for human error" is what gives the game that added dimension the other sports no longer have....leave it to "Old Blue" to be able to eye ball the play and get it right. :scholar:
     
  3. Double Dog Dare

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    Can't buy off umps with instant replay...(but again, I'm a scoundrel)
    I vote NO! Because baseball should NOT be a perfect science.

    (Can you buy off the replay booth????)
    DDD
     
  4. Dbacks20

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    Hey DDD,

    That's why you never see the camera for the coaches meeting at the plate...if so you could tell which coach was sliding the $50 bill during the hand shake :laugh4:
     
  5. NC Baseball Fan

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    ....leave it to "Old Blue" to be able to eye ball the play and get it right. :scholar:

    I guess that would keep the "c'mon blue" & "Hey Blue, You're not gettin paid by the hour" comments from being hollard throughout the stands as much. Gotta love the hecklers...
     
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  6. Hoopsradio

    Hoopsradio Larynx to the high bidder

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    The one thing in sports that burns me is old codgers getting a forum to spout off about how they refuse to watch THEIR game get changed. Excuse me, but turn your sport over to the next generation... those of us who want to see it officiated properly and results that take place on the field. If you want an old reference... "we have the technology, we can rebuild it."

    Evolution is part of the world. Television is at every game. Why not use a different view to help aid an important call. These are the same yahoos that come on and spout off about a little league or high school umpire being out of position on a call. Guess what? Four cameras trained on home plate from various points of the stadium will not lie. People get blocked from seeing the play at the right angle due to many reasons.

    So it slows the game down by two minutes in about 15-20 games per year. It's called getting the call right. If you have a call reversed on replay and it's the right call and you can clearly see it, then that's what is supposed to happen. If it takes 10 minutes to get the call right, then that's what it takes to get it right. Fair is the most important thing in sports -- not human error... not 3 1/2 hour games, not you mowing your lawn between innings, not making fans wait for the right call, nothing is more important than getting the call right.

    Keep the reviews to plays at the plate and home runs over the fence if there's a dispute. No challenges. Don't make it about balls and strikes. There are plenty of calls in football (like holding and roughing the passer) that are still judgment calls by the officials. The calling of balls and strikes should still be left in the home plate umps jurisdiction.

    End of discussion.

    I retreat from my soapbox.
     
  7. Braves

    Braves Watauga Pioneers #6

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    Wow…Hoops, you surprised me with your low blow. “Old Codgers’? Many of those that posted are younger than you and the most of the one’s that agree with you are the so-called “Old Codgers”. Really....this collin-type retort is not you.

    The generation that brought the designated hitter, lowering of the pitcher’s mounds, teacup strike zones, lighter baseballs, reduced seams on baseballs; all for the purpose of trying to attract the non-baseball fan, and then the same generation whining that pitchers ain’t like they used to be. The generation that marveled and exhalted the new “bonic” hitters and then tar and feathered them when they were exposed. The next generation that brought us steroids and every other new designer performance enhancing drug. The generation that brought us the new technology in bats….metal!

    Hmm…to be honest I’d rather give it back

    There you go again. You come into a forum that you have labeled as “old codgers” and now we are “yahoos”, yet apparently, you have no idea that many of the posters are HS and college students as well as “your’ generation coaches. Again, you can get your point across without the darts. There are many people that agree with you on Instant Replay...it's not a generational thing.


    This is the 2nd most hypocritical statement next to "We're changing this law for the kids"

    If one is to follow this logic, then instant replay must be used for every bang-bang play at any base or any disputed catch in the outfield or any phantom tag at 2nd base. Any of those plays are just as important as the homeplate call. All of them can lead to runs. And if nothing is more important than getting the call right, then you can’t be judicious in the importance because they all can be important.

    I have absolutely no problem with the length of games in baseball. It’s the peripheral human rain delays that turn me off. Batters stepping out of the box after every pitch to bless his bat, curse the ump and fix his uniform. The pitcher that spends so much time between pitches that his fielders are caught napping. Having to wait 20 minutes for the ground crew to water the field, rake the dirt and plant shrubs after every other inning. I have a strong suspicion that the arbitrary use of Instant Replay will only add to the human rain delay.

    I want to watch baseball. I’ll trust that the umpires get it right and if they don't, I'll remind them


    If you add fan interference…I’m with ya brother

    What you are suggesting is certainly reasonable and does not delay or interfere with the game. But if the topic, as I understood it, is about the use of Instant Replay to be used in all close plays in order to "get it right"....then I guess I am an old codger. Dang Hoops...thanks for pointing that out:th_10_8_12:
     
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  8. aguyyouknow

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    Yahoos?

    Hoops,
    Let me get this straight....... by Yahoos you mean High School and College Baseball Coaches, Professional Baseball Scouts, Former College and Professional Baseball Players.

    Hmmmmm? Hoops, did I leave any Yahoos out?

    If you want to "get it right" nothing impacts the outcome (or direction of) a game like the umpire and his strike zone. Over the course of the season it will have infinitely more impact over 162 games than a close play at the plate or a ball that might have hit above the yellow line that happens once a week or so.

    It's fine to see it differently than we do. But your disregard for "our" generation of Baseball Guys is unwarranted. I've personally (played and) been around the game (at absolutely every level) for almost 40 years. Don't I get a little credit (from you) for that?
     
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  9. LegionPost46

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    not an old codger yet

    i say absolutely no to instant replay in baseball. i'm also 29. not quite into codger land yet. i think a bunch of changes that have been made have really improved the game. i like the expanded playoffs, but i don't want to go anymore than 4 teams, or playoff races completely disappear. i like the all star game awarding home field advantage in the world series. i like the unbalanced schedule and playing teams in your division more than others. i like interleague play.

    some things are better left unchanged. and letting umpires call the whole game is one of those decisions.
     
  10. Braves

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    Be quiet yahoo....you're too old to understand
     

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