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New Legion Team In W. Forsyth Co.?

Discussion in 'Baseball' started by Homer3, Dec 31, 2004.

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  1. NCBBallFan

    NCBBallFan Retired ex-moderator

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    Last year, West Forsyth got knocked out in the 3rd round by Page. Independence faced JH Rose in the finals.

    The state 4A finals in 2003 pitted Myers Park versus JH Rose. West Forsyth wasn't in the playoffs.

    In 2002, West Forsyth made it to the finals against Fuquay-Varina.
     
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    Hey homer 3 not so fast those 2 guys on the front page of the paper may have the cart before the horse it is not official yet that West Forsyth will have a team heard committee voted them down (which they should have)Now west is crying foul.Now i could support a Team in Western forsyth county if they had no legion team to play on but they have not 1 but 3 possible teams they could try out for. So homer 3 let's here what you would do if you were area 3 commish without hurting any team already established and having quality baseball to watch,to allow West a team. this is how it is now what would you do?

    Mocksville-Davie County, West Forsyth, Forbush, Starmount
    Yadkin County- Forbush, Starmount, Allegany, Calvary Baptist. Elkin
    Winston- Salem- R.J Reynolds, Mt. Tabor, North Forsyth, South Stokes
    Kernersville- Carver, Parkland , Glenn, East Forsyth, Ledford
    Mt. Airy- Forbush, Starmount, surry Central,East Surry,West stokes,North Surry, Mt. Airy.
    Rown County- North Rowan, West Rowan, Salisbury,East Rowan,
    Lexington- North Davidson, West Davidson, Lexington, Central Davidson,East Davidson,
    Lexington
     
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    Mr. 4, sorry, but the Lewisville/Clemmons team is a done deal. The West team was voted down, (apparently due to others afraid of competition or losing $$$) however the decision was appealed and the state commander of the American Legion office in Raleigh said no legion post that wants a team can be denied a team. The application and other paperwork has been filed AND approved. I got this info from the post commanders in Lewisville AND Mocksville. Check it out yourself and reply back.

    Also , apparently the state is reviewing the Mocksville's team status with the American Legion....something to do with the team not being sponsored by the post for several years?????? I don't quite understand that, but who did we beat last year in the tournament with now possibly an unsponsored team????
     
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    apparently homer 3 you have no clue about the rules as you never answered my question. 1st the team must be approved by the executive baseball committee (page 2 2.a .in the North carolina State rule book.) . 2nd a legion baseball team may be sponsored by an outside organization(page 17 in the nation american legion rule book on sponsorship) which i beleive Mocksville has been for years I beleive the lions club sponsored the team back in the 1950's. also Mocksville uses post 174. currently over 1/2 the legion teams in the state are run by outside sponsors Asheboro is sponsored by the Kiwanis club. I am still waiting on how you would handle this matter if you were the commisioner of area 3 your job is to promote good quality, competitive baseball so let's here how you would divide these teams up, just keep in the back of your mind Mocksville is the longest running legion team on this list of teams that will be effected by this move and the largest crowd drawer of this list. Waiting to here back.
     
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    Cool your jets there 4!! I must have hit a sore spot or something. I'm not trying to start something here, just only restating what I have heard and then confirmed regarding the new western Forsyth team. as I mentioned earlier, the commanders from both Lewisville post 522 and Mocksville post 174 have confirmed that the team, paperwork, and location have all been approved. I understand the rules as they were explained to me by the state american legion office and the local post commanders. So you know more than they do? Maybe, but I would think they would have a good understanding also.

    Concerning the issue about sponsorship, you may be right. There again, this was something I learned when I contacted the state office and the Mocksville commander. Does the Mocksville commander or anyone else serve on the mocksville team board, or does there need to be someone from the psot represented? Outside sponsorship is great, but all teams have outside sponsors who contribute money. But remember these teams are non-profit and should not use the legion post name if they are not officially sanctioned by that post.

    Even though I have been in Davie county for years, I think having another team close by only helps to add more to each community as well as give more young men the opportunity to play. With the growth population in western forsyth and eastern davie co., there is plenty of quality talent to fill all the rosters of the teams in the area.

    Now, your question about being the commish. First, for your comments to be valid, then you are saying the new clemmons team will not draw many fans and that mocksville will not keep supporting our team. If the mocksville team is the longest running team in the area, what difference does that make and why would our fans stop coming to the games at rich park? I have been to a couple west forsyth hs games and they pack 'em in there. With that said, how many kids from west were on the mocksville team last year and how many of those played regularly? The competition level will be just fine. Relax and just look forward to having more local Davie county talent on our team this summer. It always comes down to pitching and defense and west just has better pitching than mocksville now and mocksville has better defense now. we will just have to wait and see how these teams do in their conferences. The new western forsyth team will NOT play in mocksville's conference. They will play in the northern conference with Mt.Airy, Kville, gboro and others. Maybe we will see west in the tourney. That would be a fun night of baseball! Maybe we could sit together mr. 4.!!!
     
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    Mr. notabrownie- please accept my apologies for getting you so stirred up. There is no reason to get as emotional over this as you seem to be.

    Let me address some incorrect info in your post. First, I never have had and never will have a son that will play any sport in Davie Co. high school or other wise. I only have one daughter and she is a Jr. I am just a faithful fan of Mocksville legion baseball and have been for sometime. I played ball in college and I enjoy supporting the team each summer.

    What bothers me though about the people like you and a FEW others from Davie Co., it seems like ya'll are afraid of a little competition. This is in my opinion why the bond to build a new high school in E Davie was voted down. Too mant people did not want to split DCHS and dilute the athletic programs. It did not matter how crowded the classrooms were or that some classes are held in the church across the street. DCHS needs to stay 4A in athletics.

    This same attitude is eveident in those who think this new legion team in clemmons will make mocksville legion team inferior. Well if that is true, maybe the kids in DC need to practice more and just get better. Also, I bet 99% of the guys who played legion also played little league, so there is no reason to put LL down. Did you play LL?

    If the west coaches want to put all west players on their legion team, then that's up to them...are you scared? But I would bet they will put the best players on the team no matter where they play HS ball or who their daddy is. Who's YOUR daddy? I wonder how many DCHS boys were cut from our team?

    As for the politics in Clemmons, from what I can tell, there are none or possibly one board member who have kids that will try out for the team. To get a new team off the ground and running, I'm sure it takes al ot of people some hardwork to get it done. So what if one board member has a kid that will tryout especially if his kid played for mocksville last summer. If he is good enough to make mocksville, then he should be good eneough to make the clemmons team, right?

    By the way, who are the board members for the mocksville team? Do they have a represenative from post 174 on the board? Have any members ever had a kid on the team? How often and where do they meet? Is there a financial statement our parents can review?

    The bottomline here brownie is this...the team in clemmons is a done deal. Mocksville players and supporters should just now start planning for the changes on our roster. You know, the players from clemmons who played witrh mocksville last year can play with mocksville again this summer if they want. It will be interesting to see how many will with all the negative comments that have been made about the new team by mocksville people.

    Now you and the other whiners in Davie co. should just accept the challenge of building our team and be a POSITIVE example to the kids of how to overcome a little adversity.
     
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    I think it's time for all of our Legion posters to take the evening off and give the rest of us a break.

    I'm closing this one down too until tomorrow AM.

    If you guys really want to start an argument with each other, trade phone numbers and have fun or find another board.
     
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    They are open again....

    Any more problems and I'll delete them
     
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    I sarted a thread earlier asking about Legion ball. This topic along with the Caldwell Co. thing plus other notes about teams folding doesn't exactly make you want to have your son play.......
     
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    Exactly...and that's why NCBBallfan is monitoring this very closely. We don't want Legion baseball to become indicted by a specific situation. It's a great level of competition (some would say the best) and it will overcome any obstacle it confronts. They are not experiencing anything new that all levels of baseball has had to face.
     
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